Global Warming

[TimberWolf]

It's probably reached the point now where renting an apartment in Ibiza or Majorca for three months of the winter is actually cheaper than the gas and electric bills in the UK over the same period.

And why are our utility bills so ******* high?

Carbon taxes to stop warmer winters.

s of the highest order.

Lol, I would rep you for that ironic insight but am not able to.

[pjclarke]

Displacement Activity.

Wasting my time I know, but for those interested in getting their science coverage in non-tabloid form :

Recent cold winters that brought chaos to the UK and other places in northern Europe may have their roots in the Sun's varying ultraviolet emissions.
The latest satellite data shows the UV output is far more changeable than scientists had previously thought.
A UK scientific team now shows in Nature Geoscience journal how these changes lead to warmer winters in some places and colder winters in others.
The researchers emphasise there is no impact on global warming.

Dim Prawn - can you provide a link to where the Met Office predict the return of the Little Ice Age? When I say 'link' I mean something actually written by the Met Office. The only thing I can find is by Jonathon Leake, and therefore probably bulltulipe.

Thanks!

[Doggy Styles]

Perhaps that giant magnet is sucking all the CO2 to India!

[pjclarke]

There's no doubt that fuel poverty remains an important issue in this country. It still accelerates the deaths of elderly people every winter. Being able to maintain your home at a habitable temperature is a basic human right. But the new plans will make no appreciable difference.

According to the government, the impact of all its climate change policies – old and new – will be to add an average of £92 (or 8%) to household bills between now and 2020. Does that sound like the end of life as we know it? If so, you have a short memory.

Between November 2004 and November 2005, the average wholesale price of electricity rose from 2.1 pence to 3.6 pence – by 71%. In the 12 months to February 2006, the wholesale price of natural gas in the United Kingdom rose by 75%. In the three years to that date, it rose from under 20p a therm to 70p – an increase of 350%.

Wholesale prices don't translate directly into retail prices - the hit for householders wasn't quite as great as that – but you get the general idea. The rate by which the wholesale price of gas rose between 2003 and 2006 was 160 times greater than the rate of increase in retail fuel prices likely to be caused by the government's climate change programmes. Compared to the wild fluctuations in energy prices caused by geopolitics and resource constraints, this increase will be scarcely detectable. The signal generating such angst today will be lost in the noise.

Did the price rise of 2003-2006 cause the economy to collapse? No. That was achieved by other means.

Source.

[Spacecadet]

The signal generating such angst today will be lost in the noise.

indeed - give it a few hundred years and they'll be laughing about the Millennium Warm Period

[BlasterBates]

Wasting my time I know, but for those interested in getting their science coverage in non-tabloid form :


Dim Prawn - can you provide a link to where the Met Office predict the return of the Little Ice Age? When I say 'link' I mean something actually written by the Met Office. The only thing I can find is by Jonathon Leake, and therefore probably bulltulipe.

Thanks!

Need to start reading round instead of that Bullcr@p at Real Climate. There are papers galore on mini ice age, and no I'm not going to post a link, you can find it yourself.

[pjclarke]

There are papers galore on mini ice age, and no I'm not going to post a link, you can find it yourself.

There are also papers galore proving that eating blueberries cures cancer ....

Prediction - there won't be a link provided to a Met Office LIA prediction because it is a figment of Leake's imagination ....

[DodgyAgent]

Wasting my time I know, but for those interested in getting their science coverage in non-tabloid form :


Dim Prawn - can you provide a link to where the Met Office predict the return of the Little Ice Age? When I say 'link' I mean something actually written by the Met Office. The only thing I can find is by Jonathon Leake, and therefore probably bulltulipe.

Thanks!

Who pays you to infect the world with your propoganda?

[BlasterBates]

There are also papers galore proving that eating blueberries cures cancer ....

Prediction - there won't be a link provided to a Met Office LIA prediction because it is a figment of Leake's imagination ....

...and my favourite you missed proving the temperature was flat for thousands of years, using tree trunks.



Ocasionally ridciulous ideas slip through the net.

[DodgyAgent]

Mann et al 2008. Proxy-based reconstructions of hemispheric and global surface temperature variations over the past two millennia

That's a refereed journal, not some retired weatherman's blog.

Are you a contractor?