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    #71
    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    Risks have "mitigation", not solutions, in project terms. Only someone with experience would know this of course.
    try working on an 'Agile' fixed price project with no Agreed Requirements, WBS, Delivery Schedule, User Acceptance Process or Risk Register - if you do find yourself working such a project like I did man up and kick some arse...... then increase your rate for the next renewal

    last project i was was exactly like this but was also top heavy in terms of BA's (or excel jockeys as they actually were) - on the third day in they asked for my comments on how it was going, asked for all these key project docs and they just looked confused..... flash foward 2 months when everything is going to tulip and most of the team had come round to 'my' way of thinking....im not a PM, neve done prince2 or any of that bollix it's just common sense.....well, to some...
    sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice - Asimov (sort of)

    there is no art in a factory, not even in an art factory - Mixerman

    everyone is stupid some of the time - trad.

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      #72
      Originally posted by 2BIT View Post
      try working on an 'Agile' fixed price project with no Agreed Requirements, WBS, Delivery Schedule, User Acceptance Process or Risk Register - if you do find yourself working such a project like I did man up and kick some arse...... then increase your rate for the next renewal

      last project i was was exactly like this but was also top heavy in terms of BA's (or excel jockeys as they actually were) - on the third day in they asked for my comments on how it was going, asked for all these key project docs and they just looked confused..... flash foward 2 months when everything is going to tulip and most of the team had come round to 'my' way of thinking....im not a PM, neve done prince2 or any of that bollix it's just common sense.....well, to some...
      Ah, you're one of those cowboy coder types eh?
      Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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        #73
        Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
        Ah, you're one of those cowboy coder types eh?
        yeahtis true,i tend to be the one who actually ends up delivering something, I would love to attend meetings, write poorly constructed documents and design flakey excel models all day but turns out you can earn more doing work instead

        so yeah your project could be a lot worse, man up dude
        sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice - Asimov (sort of)

        there is no art in a factory, not even in an art factory - Mixerman

        everyone is stupid some of the time - trad.

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          #74
          Originally posted by 2BIT View Post
          yeahtis true,i tend to be the one who actually ends up delivering something they will never use
          ftfy

          Hactually the projects that follow a full SDLC last longer and hence more coins.
          Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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            #75
            Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
            ftfy

            Hactually the projects that follow a full SDLC last longer and hence more coins.
            again tis true but to be honest i thought you were a fellow cowboy and not an excel jockie

            and no offence to BA's either, some of my best friends are BA's...
            sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice - Asimov (sort of)

            there is no art in a factory, not even in an art factory - Mixerman

            everyone is stupid some of the time - trad.

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              #76
              Originally posted by 2BIT View Post
              again tis true but to be honest i thought you were a fellow cowboy and not an excel jockie

              and no offence to BA's either, some of my best friends are BA's...
              No, quite the opposite of a cowboy. Something of a deep thinker, and a perfectionist. This is my downfall.

              PS People that say 'Tis are gay. HTH
              Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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                #77
                Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
                No, quite the opposite of a cowboy. Something of a deep thinker, and a perfectionist. This is my downfall.

                PS People that say 'Tis are gay. HTH
                Agreed.

                Complete opposite of a cowboy. Not an Indian either.

                In the Wild West the roughty toughty cowboys needed some
                downtime and R&R. That's where SY comes in. He's the equivalent of the young, naive, buck toothed fugly all the other girls in the cathouse pick on who one day is going to fall in love with an outlaw, get accused of helping him to escape from the posse and then get hanged as an accessory.

                That's our SY.
                What happens in General, stays in General.
                You know what they say about assumptions!

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                  Agreed.

                  Complete opposite of a cowboy. Not an Indian either.

                  In the Wild West the roughty toughty cowboys needed some
                  downtime and R&R. That's where SY comes in. He's the equivalent of the young, naive, buck toothed fugly all the other girls in the cathouse pick on who one day is going to fall in love with an outlaw, get accused of helping him to escape from the posse and then get hanged as an accessory.

                  That's our SY.
                  It's a load of Bobs on the project

                  They're all really nice

                  And people that say "roughty toughty" are definately gay
                  Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
                    No, quite the opposite of a cowboy. Something of a deep thinker, and a perfectionist. This is my downfall.
                    that's what all the cowboys say Deep thinker? perfectionist? BA? hmmm something doesn't reconcile here...
                    sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice - Asimov (sort of)

                    there is no art in a factory, not even in an art factory - Mixerman

                    everyone is stupid some of the time - trad.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Churchill View Post
                      Ask yourself "What would MF do?" and plumb for the opposite.
                      Actually do as MF says. In less than 3 weeks I look to successfully deliver the most fookin poisonous chalice project of my entire career to over 1000 users. 11 trips to the US, over 130 days in tulip hotels, stupidly long days (again 18 hours today) , more politics than a US debt default and more CYA than a Miley Cyrus video on Iranian TV. If this doesn't fook up in the last 21 days at the last hurdle then I have just pulled off the pinnacle of my entire IT career. Otherwise feel free to give me a good CUK kicking. (Or do if I pull it off as well :-) )
                      What happens in General, stays in General.
                      You know what they say about assumptions!

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