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Family served with eviction notice from Wandsworth Council
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostIt's like most of London. Council housing which may or may not be in housing estates is mixed with private housing.
I can understand why DimPrawn decided to live in NewcastleComment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostSo, to sum up and correct me I am wrong here: our very own sasguru lives next to council estates and big prison?
The council estates are a few miles further from the prison.
Oh and everywhere in London seems to have a prison or some sort of offenders institution not far away from it......"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostI doubt anyone will take them on privately now he has had his mush pictured on the front page of the Mail. Homeless hostels for this family then, can't say I am sad really.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostNot sure about the eviction idea, seems heavy handed and needs to be used for the worst cases.
I am impressed with the more
heavier sentences the courts have been handing out by sending rioters of all types (whether their first ever crime or multiple) straight to jail - do not pass go - do not collect £200.
Some of the reactions of people sent to jail have been along the lines of 'b b b but it was only a bottle of wine' I think the knowledge that if your caught for
rioting/looting you're going away for
six months will act as a deterrent to
many.Speaking gibberish on internet talkboards since last Michaelmas. Plus here on TwitterComment
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostI have never understood where communities who have large number of unemployed do
not have community work schemes aligned with the local councils where basic painting/decorating/cleaning skills etc are not taught and
employed. Then those out of work would decorate the flats of others on social housing , would
clean the streets, tidy up, mow the parks, prune the trees etc in exchange for their
benefit plus maybe a community
top up. They would maybe only need to do two days per week each.
The argument against has always been that someone employed is put out of work and the unions would strike, but as most councils outsource their work to the private sector this doesn't hold water. Reduce council outgoings by making those you pay to sit at home work in the community for two days, they become insentivised and get a work ethic and start to respect their community. Winners all round shirley?
So in areas of high unemployment, you make more unemployed by putting the professional painters/handymen out of work. So that you can try and get effective work done by the chavs two days a week?
It's like those people who say we should bring back conscription. It would be a terrible blow to the army. One reason we have such good armed forces is because they are a professional force, manned by people who choose to do that job.
I've a better idea. Give tenants without work in London a bribe of 4 or 5k to exchange their council flat for a place in Norfolk or Lincs (or anywhere where there is a shortage of agricultural workers). This bribe would soon be recovered from the housing benefit currently being forked out. Of course they may still end up rioting in the sticks, but since journalists don't go there, we won't need to watch it!Speaking gibberish on internet talkboards since last Michaelmas. Plus here on TwitterComment
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostI am impressed with the more
heavier sentences the courts have been handing out by sending rioters of all types (whether their first ever crime or multiple) straight to jail - do not pass go - do not collect £200."A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s the s*** that happens while you’re waiting for moments that never come." -- Lester FreamonComment
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I think the justification (rightly or wrongly) is that looting creates fear and panic among the public, so the sentance reflects not the monetary value of what was stolen, but part of it's overall contribution to the fear caused to innocent members of the public.Comment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostComments like that really make me wonder who's worse... the chavs or the middle-class people who look down on them.
I made my choices and they have made theirs so they can take the punishment as much as I have taken the rewards.Comment
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Originally posted by Freamon View PostThe trouble is that when you send someone to jail for 6 months for stealing £3.50 of bottled water, whereas Jim Devine only served 4 months for £8,385 fraudulent MP's expenses, it just makes the justice system and the government seem even less credible to a group of people who have already lost faith in it. (Not to mention other MPs who received no punishment, bankers who haven't been investigated for the fraud that caused the GFC, dodgy police and media types implicated in phone hacking, etc).
The next problem will be maintaining a comparable level of sentencing. Britain's jails are already overflowing and from what I gather we don't have the budget or political will to build more so we have a choice between letting existing prisoners out early to make space or going easy on "low level" crime.
I propose a technological solution. We could use high tech GPS enabled tracking devices linked to massive doses of sedatives to impose house arrest on anyone convicted of a minor offence. Should they stray more than 100m from their house they will be rendered unconscious in the middle of the street, so that any passer by can urinate on them or shave their eyebrows.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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