Cameron's response

[AtW]

1) No solution can be 100% fair. It's this too soft approach, scared to make one wrong move that results in a paralysed response as we saw last night.

Putting someone to death without good reason (self defence) is too irreversible.

2) If the scrotes are dumb enough to commit a crime three times then they deserve all they get. Give them the option of euthanasia if they're that worried about conditions. Why should we have them living amongst us just because they're human. We put better animals down for less.

Life sentence after 3 times, yes - death: no, unless they resist arrest or threaten life or health of other people.

[DimPrawn]

I want them to get home sick.

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HTH

[PAH]

Yes, and is your 'American solution' really working in the US?

I didn't say an exact copy. There has to be a system available that would be fair yet robust.

Obviously what we have in place now is nowhere near good enough or there wouldn't be thousands of youths thinking they can get away with what they've done.

[Lockhouse]

Yes, and is your 'American solution' really working in the US?

Apparently it is.....

[Mr.Whippy]

The US system jailed and put on death row a guy who when interviewed was clearly retarded.

One of this crimes was holding up a newsagent shop not for the money, cigarettes and booze but for cookies and milk.

"One of".... what were the others?

[Mich the Tester]

Apparently it is.....

If the death penalty was such a good deterrent they would barely have to use it.

[AtW]

If the death penalty was such a good deterrent they would barely have to use it.

They use it pretty rarely, but I still disagree with it.

Shooting attacker in self defense however is the human right that they forgot to put into Human Rights Act.

[Bunk]

Everything is possible, make a deal with Scotland and pay them £1000 for each prisoner per year.

It's only expensive if you do tulip like playstations, cut costs right down - it should not cost much more than some cheap food per year plus salaries of guards - automate things as much as possible.

£1000 per prisoner per year isn't even close to what it costs. And if you're so insistent on shipping them off to another country and building a prison for them, how about Russia? The whole country is a god forsaken tuliphole and there's plenty of space for a few mega-prisons.

[SueEllen]

"One of".... what were the others?

I can't actually remember but they were similar stupid things.

Seriously the guy is as slow and as intelligent as one of my neighbours' adult kids.

The difference between my neighbour's son and this guy, is my neighbour's son had 2 parents to fight for him even though they are divorced.

Oh and my neighbour, his father, also managed to move to where I am to prevent his son hanging out with bad people that would lead him astray.

[SueEllen]

They use it pretty rarely, but I still disagree with it.

Shooting attacker in self defense however is the human right that they forgot to put into Human Rights Act.

You can use reasonable force against an attacker.

If someone breaks into your home, they are facing you, you stab them and they die then you are extremely unlikely to face charges.

However if you shot them in the back whilst they are running away then you will be put on trial.