60 M/bit connection, unlimited usage, calls to UK landlines all for....

[SueEllen]

I liked Sunday shopping when it first came in. I could use Saturdays to just stay at home and wind down after an often hard commute home on Friday evening.

But with the extended hours we now have during the rest of the week, it isn't a big deal any more.

It's useful.

Instead of running around on a week day evening I can go to the supermarket/Boots/electrical shop/clothes shop on a Sunday. And if I time it for when the store opens or half an hour before they close I can avoid the crowds.

[2BIT]

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

I can't really decipher the above gripe but suffice to say it's a closed ecosystem that plays nice with other stuff in the ecosystem.

It will, however, start playing downloads to your apple tv prior to completion.

stealing a TV show? maybe - i download TV shows, watch them and then delete them - much like I did with VHS pre-internet- record, watch, tape-over.... but yeah if that's what you consider stealing then you are of course entitled to your opinion.

except that it didn't when I tried it- plugged an APPLE ipod into an APPLE mac and the mac managed to wipe the ipod- ooh integrated!! Apple stuff is aimed at the non techie and therfore i stupidly expected the ipod and mac to just work but alas no- of course when i want to put songs on my mp3 player i just drag the files on the player drive - couldn't be simpler, doesn't need a dedicated app (which doesn't work) or a link to an online shop/advertising board

each to their own

[2BIT]

I liked Sunday shopping when it first came in. I could use Saturdays to just stay at home and wind down after an often hard commute home on Friday evening.

But with the extended hours we now have during the rest of the week, it isn't a big deal any more.

i have no set pattern I just like the choice, due to having commitments this saturday I'm glad I could go to the shop sunday and get stuff I needed for monday.

[Sysman]

It's useful.

Instead of running around on a week day evening I can go to the supermarket/Boots/electrical shop/clothes shop on a Sunday. And if I time it for when the store opens or half an hour before they close I can avoid the crowds.

Looking back at Life Before Sunday Opening I had a dog so would get up early on a Saturday and do a round or two of the local reservoir, then hit the supermarket at opening time to avoid the crowds (8 am or was it earlier?). I'd typically see the same few folks doing the same each Saturday. There was also a local farm shop which opened on Sundays, and a garage which had its own bakery. I suppose I was lucky.

In Switzerland I have a local food supermarket open on Sunday, though that wasn't always the case*. When I first moved here the local shops shut too early in the evening to hit them after work, which made them murder to hit on a Saturday because the whole town turned up. Now they are open until 7pm, 8 on Wednesdays/Fridays, and that's a vast improvement.

* my first Sunday in an apartment here I went to Zurich airport to get some cornflakes

But I'm more organised now and only shop on Sundays for picnicky stuff when nice weather has me heading into the countryside.

[SueEllen]

In Switzerland I have a local food supermarket open on Sunday, though that wasn't always the case*. When I first moved here the local shops shut too early in the evening to hit them after work, which made them murder to hit on a Saturday because the whole town turned up. Now they are open until 7pm, 8 on Wednesdays/Fridays, and that's a vast improvement.

* my first Sunday in an apartment here I went to Zurich airport to get some cornflakes

But I'm more organised now and only shop on Sundays for picnicky stuff when nice weather has me heading into the countryside.

I couldn't live in a country that didn't have long opening hours as any place I've lived in the cheap flights tend to be at awkward times so it's easy not to have any food.

I was a kid when Sunday opening wasn't allowed in England but for years when I was a teenager there were 2 supermarkets within a mile of me who started opening normal hours 9am-5pm on a Sunday and then get a fine for it regularly. They worked out that even if they paid the fine they still made more money that that on a Sunday. Plus being in London there where the "Indian" hypermarkets that were allowed to open to "members" who sold most things but the normal stuff was at inflated prices.

[Moscow Mule]

except that it didn't when I tried it- plugged an APPLE ipod into an APPLE mac and the mac managed to wipe the ipod- ooh integrated!! Apple stuff is aimed at the non techie and therfore i stupidly expected the ipod and mac to just work but alas no- of course when i want to put songs on my mp3 player i just drag the files on the player drive - couldn't be simpler, doesn't need a dedicated app (which doesn't work) or a link to an online shop/advertising board

each to their own

Was this a while ago? I'm pretty sure it will ask you if you want to sync an iPod or over-write if iTunes hasn't seen it before.

It's about 1 billion times better than the abomination that was wmp 5 iterations ago and the store might as well not be there if you don't want to use it (it will import the album art of ripped CDs if you ask it to though).

And you can ask nickfitz about how techie you can get with unix...

[2BIT]

Was this a while ago? I'm pretty sure it will ask you if you want to sync an iPod or over-write if iTunes hasn't seen it before.

It's about 1 billion times better than the abomination that was wmp 5 iterations ago and the store might as well not be there if you don't want to use it (it will import the album art of ripped CDs if you ask it to though).

And you can ask nickfitz about how techie you can get with unix...

it was in the early days, I would be shocked if they hadn't improved iTunes since then as it was an abomination... I'm not anti-mac I recognise that they are designed for a specific market segment and that's cool, its just the way I download, watch, transfer etc is so simple I don't need a dedicated app and can control my own sync between devices exactly.

again I'm not anti-unix but have no need for it - I'm not a super techy who loves doing IT outside the day job or a gadget whore who needs to keep up with the latest tech

perhaps if iTunes and unix offered benefits over my current way I may want to give them a try but I predict that both will be in some way harder

[Moscow Mule]

perhaps if iTunes and unix offered benefits over my current way I may want to give them a try but I predict that both will be in some way harder

Exactly how I feel about windows!

[2BIT]

Exactly how I feel about windows!

this is it- different tools for different markets- my ex for example couldn't really get her head around directories and dragging and dropping files (inexplicably!) so she preferred to use iTunes, in fact most non-techies do and I can understand that, for me it offered no benefits, in fact it actually got in the way and of course not only wouldn't sync but deleted songs with no warning - so not only no benefits but was actually detrimental!!