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Ineffectual doe eyed useless ******* permie *******!!!!

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    #11
    Originally posted by Sands of Time View Post
    He sits there 'running' a meeting - no issues cleared, can't make a decision, can't handle the participants, no 'traction', no idea what's going on...

    Part way through the meeting he re-read previous points - he hadn't realised we'd discussed them 30 minutes earlier!!!!

    I think they have to retrain him when he returns from lunch every day!!!!

    After the meeting he actually turns to me and says - I think that went quite well...


    USELESS!!!!




    Bing!

    There I was, competently managing my regular meeting, and this contractor type starts having a go at me.

    Thank goodness I am working away from the office on interpersonal skills training at my local management training centre tomorrow.

    Thankfully this contractor is so desperate for renewal it is easy to get him to do the work and pass it off as mine. This permie lark is brilliant - should be at board level any day soon

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      #12
      Originally posted by Wilmslow View Post
      There I was, competently managing my regular meeting, and this contractor type starts having a go at me.

      Thank goodness I am working away from the office on interpersonal skills training at my local management training centre tomorrow.

      Thankfully this contractor is so desperate for renewal it is easy to get him to do the work and pass it off as mine. This permie lark is brilliant - should be at board level any day soon
      Not that I believe your story for a second but interpersonal skills training which goes everywhere in these places is the biggest pile of wank going. You go through school, university, and work your way up to management and then get told your social skills are not adequate for manger to colleague discourse.

      We should just get rid of these woolly phrases you are asked to use if you feel you are being 'let down by your colleagues ability and want to let him no your feelings without upsetting him/her or his/her ability in the company structure' and just let them say 'that is ****** bollocks'

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        #13
        Having the ability to be persuasive, but firm, not condescending, but to get your point across, to manage a meeting, to allow others to have their say, to placate difficult people, to manage teams, to enfranchise, not disenfranchise, to be concise, to manage stakeholders, to deal with politics & to deliver is an extremely difficult skill to learn.

        If you can do all that, then you can call yourself a manager.
        What happens in General, stays in General.
        You know what they say about assumptions!

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          #14
          Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
          Having the ability to be persuasive, but firm, not condescending, but to get your point across, to manage a meeting, to allow others to have their say, to placate difficult people, to manage teams, to enfranchise, not disenfranchise, to be concise, to manage stakeholders, to deal with politics & to deliver is an extremely difficult skill to learn.

          If you can do all that, then you can call yourself a manager.
          F**k that, f**kface.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
            F**k that, f**kface.
            You work in the IT Department don't you?
            What happens in General, stays in General.
            You know what they say about assumptions!

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              #16
              Originally posted by Sands of Time View Post
              I don't attend if there's no agenda.

              Another permie has a meeting with herself as no one else turns up - she distributes the minutes to the invited absentees, she has to take all the actions and because she's ineffectual too - there's actions going back to 2007 uncompleted!!!

              She's ginger too.


              Bing!
              That's really tickled me



              I am proper laughing
              Practically perfect in every way....there's a time and (more importantly) a place for malarkey.
              +5 Xeno Cool Points

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                #17
                Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                Not that I believe your story for a second but interpersonal skills training which goes everywhere in these places is the biggest pile of wank going. You go through school, university, and work your way up to management and then get told your social skills are not adequate for manger to colleague discourse.

                We should just get rid of these woolly phrases you are asked to use if you feel you are being 'let down by your colleagues ability and want to let him no your feelings without upsetting him/her or his/her ability in the company structure' and just let them say 'that is ****** bollocks'

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                  you must have heard of flower power


                  Growing old is mandatory
                  Growing up is optional

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    Not that I believe your story for a second but interpersonal skills training which goes everywhere in these places is the biggest pile of wank going. You go through school, university, and work your way up to management and then get told your social skills are not adequate for manger to colleague discourse.

                    We should just get rid of these woolly phrases you are asked to use if you feel you are being 'let down by your colleagues ability and want to let him no your feelings without upsetting him/her or his/her ability in the company structure' and just let them say 'that is ****** bollocks'
                    I think you'll find that Wilmslow was trying to wind up the OP.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                      You work in the IT Department don't you?


                      Originally posted by Lightship
                      Bazza gets caught
                      Socrates - "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."

                      CUK University Challenge Champions 2010

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