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Previously on "Ineffectual doe eyed useless ******* permie *******!!!!"
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this is what I thought, having worked with twunts like this before they are ripe for having fun with and will never notice you're taking the piss
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yeah but who'd want to be a manager?!?Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostHaving the ability to be persuasive, but firm, not condescending, but to get your point across, to manage a meeting, to allow others to have their say, to placate difficult people, to manage teams, to enfranchise, not disenfranchise, to be concise, to manage stakeholders, to deal with politics & to deliver is an extremely difficult skill to learn.
If you can do all that, then you can call yourself a manager.
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this is why the whole off-shore thing is not a complete disaster, lots of emergency fix work looming...Originally posted by minestrone View PostMost permie departments at big firms just stumble over one crap app over another and we get paid to come in and wipe its arse until EOL. So I must thank all the permies, you have been keeping me well paid for many years at your efforts in writing crap code.
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Thanks for the input.Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostHe's probably a paragon of decisive efficiency, with everything firmly under control, but then you do his head in by saying "Bing!" every few seconds.
Bing!
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Cushy job and where you can bait your colleagues. Nice.Originally posted by Sands of Time View PostHe sits there 'running' a meeting - no issues cleared, can't make a decision, can't handle the participants, no 'traction', no idea what's going on...
Part way through the meeting he re-read previous points - he hadn't realised we'd discussed them 30 minutes earlier!!!!
I think they have to retrain him when he returns from lunch every day!!!!
After the meeting he actually turns to me and says - I think that went quite well...
USELESS!!!!





Bing!
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He's probably a paragon of decisive efficiency, with everything firmly under control, but then you do his head in by saying "Bing!" every few seconds.Originally posted by Sands of Time View PostHe sits there 'running' a meeting - no issues cleared, can't make a decision, can't handle the participants, no 'traction', no idea what's going on...
Part way through the meeting he re-read previous points - he hadn't realised we'd discussed them 30 minutes earlier!!!!
I think they have to retrain him when he returns from lunch every day!!!!
After the meeting he actually turns to me and says - I think that went quite well...
USELESS!!!!





Bing!
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I alluded to that.Originally posted by Churchill View PostI think you'll find that Wilmslow was trying to wind up the OP.
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostYou work in the IT Department don't you?

Originally posted by Lightship
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I think you'll find that Wilmslow was trying to wind up the OP.Originally posted by minestrone View PostNot that I believe your story for a second but interpersonal skills training which goes everywhere in these places is the biggest pile of wank going. You go through school, university, and work your way up to management and then get told your social skills are not adequate for manger to colleague discourse.
We should just get rid of these woolly phrases you are asked to use if you feel you are being 'let down by your colleagues ability and want to let him no your feelings without upsetting him/her or his/her ability in the company structure' and just let them say 'that is ****** bollocks'
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostNot that I believe your story for a second but interpersonal skills training which goes everywhere in these places is the biggest pile of wank going. You go through school, university, and work your way up to management and then get told your social skills are not adequate for manger to colleague discourse.
We should just get rid of these woolly phrases you are asked to use if you feel you are being 'let down by your colleagues ability and want to let him no your feelings without upsetting him/her or his/her ability in the company structure' and just let them say 'that is ****** bollocks'
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That's really tickled meOriginally posted by Sands of Time View PostI don't attend if there's no agenda.
Another permie has a meeting with herself as no one else turns up - she distributes the minutes to the invited absentees, she has to take all the actions and because she's ineffectual too - there's actions going back to 2007 uncompleted!!!
She's ginger too.
Bing!

I am proper laughing
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