Seriously, hereditary peers, a lot of rich toffs who have inherited land and titles, are somehow going to be more democratic and in touch with the ordinary people than the usual politicians? I think that's rewriting history slightly.
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You think an upper house filled with career politicians owing patronage to some party leader is going to be more in touch with the ordinary people than a group picked at random by accident of birth?Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
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Originally posted by threadedDemocracy is all well and good for the hoi poloi
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Originally posted by threadedYes.
You think an upper house filled with career politicians owing patronage to some party leader is going to be more in touch with the ordinary people than a group picked at random by accident of birth?Comment
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Is that the same Lloyd George who thought it a good idea to have a separate cabinet to handle the war without reference to anyone such as the prime minister, parliament etc.?Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
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Originally posted by threadedIs that the same Lloyd George who thought it a good idea to have a separate cabinet to handle the war without reference to anyone such as the prime minister, parliament etc.?Comment
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Still doesn't make it right though.Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
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I don't want Lords elected by population as a whole - what's the point of creating a house that doesn't differ in character from the commons? The whole point of the Lords is to come at things from a different angle, to do what they think is right without caring about the opinion of anyone outside (government or voters.)
My proposal is that just before each general election MPs compete to be elected by fellow MPs to fill any seats that have fallen vacant in the Lords. If elected they have a job for life, or until officially diagnosed senile anyway. An average cross-section of MPs from all parties will do a good job if promoted to the Lords where they are free to say what they really think.Comment
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Oh, so senile members of the population don't get represented in your world view?Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
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Originally posted by IR35 AvoiderMy proposal is that just before each general election MPs compete to be elected by fellow MPs to fill any seats that have fallen vacant in the Lords. If elected they have a job for life, or until officially diagnosed senile anyway. An average cross-section of MPs from all parties will do a good job if promoted to the Lords where they are free to say what they really think.
Elected politicians, by definition, get where they are by not thinking for themselves. They say what people want to hear. They obey the whips. They climb the greasy pole. They always owe patronage to somebody.
And if any elected politician ever shows signs of independent thought, that they might go against the party line occasionally, how many of their party will elect them?Comment
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