Old coot calls for fairer Britain

**xoggoth** · 5 March 2006, 21:44

Thought he was supposed to be the Lib Dem's right wing.

**OwlHoot** · 5 March 2006, 22:54

Behind their cuddly exterior the Lib Dems, in their policies, are the most vicious bunch of Stalinists you could hope not to meet. God help this country if they ever do get to power.

**AtW** · 5 March 2006, 23:14

Originally posted by OwlHoot

Behind their cuddly exterior the Lib Dems, in their policies, are the most vicious bunch of Stalinists you could hope not to meet.

What are you basing this on? From what I could see they are #1 pro-liberty party, and I just wish Consevatives would have been so good in this respect.

**Mailman** · 6 March 2006, 09:07

Thankfully though these goons will never get in to office...inspite of NL best efforts!

Mailman

**expat** · 6 March 2006, 13:18

Originally posted by AtW

What are you basing this on? From what I could see they are #1 pro-liberty party, and I just wish Consevatives would have been so good in this respect.

You are right, AtW. Owlhoot belongs to the large group of deluded crypto-fascists in this country who label anyone who breathes, rather than snarls, words like "tax" and "fair", as Stalinists.

Which suggests, as I'm sure you would agree, little real understanding of the methods of Uncle Joe.

**Dundeegeorge** · 6 March 2006, 13:25

Ermm

Originally posted by expat

You are right, AtW. Owlhoot belongs to the large group of deluded crypto-fascists in this country who label anyone who breathes, rather than snarls, words like "tax" and "fair", as Stalinists.

Which suggests, as I'm sure you would agree, little real understanding of the methods of Uncle Joe.

I thought that 'stalinism' referred to the practice of communism or socialism within one country. My understanding, probably wrong, as it was provided by the WRP, is that stalin betrayed the internationale by not driving communism throughout the world, but rather concentrated on making russia communist (of course cynics might say, once you have power in your own country you don't have to pretend to be concerned with the plight of the 'chained workers' in other countries, because you're too busy cementing your own powerbase at home. 'Hello, Joe, are we going to march on Germany and overthrow the democratic dictatorship today?', 'sorry, Leon, I've got to sign these 300,000 death warrants for dissidents, you know how it is. Maybe we'll march on Germany tomorrow, eh?'.)

**Fungus** · 6 March 2006, 15:06

Originally posted by Dundeegeorge

I thought that 'stalinism' referred to the practice of communism or socialism within one country. My understanding, probably wrong, as it was provided by the WRP, is that stalin betrayed the internationale by not driving communism throughout the world, but rather concentrated on making russia communist (of course cynics might say, once you have power in your own country you don't have to pretend to be concerned with the plight of the 'chained workers' in other countries, because you're too busy cementing your own powerbase at home. 'Hello, Joe, are we going to march on Germany and overthrow the democratic dictatorship today?', 'sorry, Leon, I've got to sign these 300,000 death warrants for dissidents, you know how it is. Maybe we'll march on Germany tomorrow, eh?'.)

I don't think Stalin had much to do with Communism. More like a weird form of anarcho-fascist dictatorship with plenty of corruption, jobs for the boys, and mass murder too.

**threaded** · 6 March 2006, 15:09

Eh? That is communism isn't it.

**PRC1964** · 6 March 2006, 15:30

Originally posted by threaded

Eh? That is communism isn't it.

Surely you meant to type New Labour?

Old coot calls for fairer Britain