Another binge

[sasguru]

<Dr. Phil mode>

Have you accepted you will not be able to sort yourself out without help yet?
I think you have an issue you have not addressed, the binge is your way of dealing with it.

I think it will be difficult trying to just stop, it is easier to replace one thing with something else, but that something else should be something that will help you with your problem. But first you need to find out what that problem is, or do you already know?

</Dr. Phil mode>

Ignore the above pop-psychobabble.
Quitting is difficult but not impossible.
I know - I've quit smoking (hardest thing I've ever done) and cut down drinking to a moderate few at the weekend.

[alreadypacked]

Ignore the above pop-psychobabble.
Quitting is difficult but not impossible.
I know - I've quit smoking (hardest thing I've ever done) and cut down drinking to a moderate few at the weekend.

Smoking is one type of self-medicating, for compulsive personalities. Gives them something to do and relaxes them.
Giving up smoking is more difficult if you don't have a plan. You can't stop a habit, you can only replace it. Whether you realise it or not, that what you have done with smoking.

Drinking is a lot more complicated, as drink and effect you in many ways, lowering your inhibitions, making you feel more outgoing, forgetting your problems etc. The effects drink has on you can change depending on how much you drink. Was the self-medicating effect you wanted after the 3rd drink or the 10th.

aussielong, You need to get some help.

[sasguru]

You need to get some help.

I do? Pray tell why.

[alreadypacked]

I do? Pray tell why.

Not you, aussielong.

You are beyond help

HTH

[aussielong]

<Dr. Phil mode>
I think it will be difficult trying to just stop, it is easier to replace one thing with something else, but that something else should be something that will help you with your problem. But first you need to find out what that problem is, or do you already know?
</Dr. Phil mode>

Of course, when I started on the booze at 15, I quickly started using it to overcome shyness. That continued for quite a few years - using the booze as a tool. And that set the pattern I think.

Later I embraced hedonism and used boozing aswell as other drugs to blow my head off purely to escape the planet for a few hours. My motivation then was excitement and I fell for the peer pressure I suppose.

I think nowadays its legacy behaviour that i've childishly continued into near middle age. Someone earlier posted that I should grow up. I think that sums it up.

I have managed to quit smoking a decade ago. I know how hard it is. I don't feel addicted to boozing. I can go without. But once I start boozing I enjoy the feeling of freedom and recklessness and that's what I find hard to walk away from. I don't have the thing in my head that tells me when i've had enough and it's time to go home. I just don't think of restraint and common sense once i've had more than two or three pints. I think of recklessness, impulsiveness and excess - things I enjoy but don't do when i'm sober because I am sensible enough to reign it in.

So i'm knocking it on the head and going to grow up. At some point in the future, when i'm settled with a family I might have a few beers with my family on the weekend. But until I reach that point I can't trust myself to reign it in on my own, so i'm going to have to abstain due to the severe after effects I am now experiencing.

[sasguru]

aussielong, You need to get some help.

Not necessarily. Loads of people just give up booze or other addictions.
It is of course in the interests of all the quack therapists, self-help authors and the whole paraphernalia of the "addiction industry" to say that people can't do it on their own and that addiction is a "disease".
There is nothing scientific about this point of view, its just the latest in a long line of pseudo-scientific bollux.

The Truth About Addiction and Recovery - Introduction

[suityou01]

Not necessarily. Loads of people just give up booze or other addictions.
It is of course in the interests of all the quack therapists, self-help authors and the whole paraphernalia of the "addiction industry" to say that people can't do it on their own and that addiction is a "disease".
There is nothing scientific about this point of view, its just the latest in a long line of pseudo-scientific bollux.

The Truth About Addiction and Recovery - Introduction

And you post a link to even more paraphernalia of the addiction industry.

Addiction proof your child - $10.08
7 Tools to beat addition - $11.20
Truth about addiction and recovery - $11.96
etc



Imbecile.

[MarillionFan]

And you post a link to even more paraphernalia of the addiction industry.

Addiction proof your child - $10.08
7 Tools to beat addition - $11.20
Truth about addiction and recovery - $11.96
etc



Imbecile.

SY. If you want to 'pwn' Sasguru as you PM'd out to a dozen posters last night i think you'll have to try a lot better than a or . You sound like a poddle yipping at the postbox at the moment.

[NotAllThere]

Some people come off booze (or whatever) by themselves. Others require support. It'd be really really dumb to not get support if you feel that you need it, but think that a "real man" would be able to do it on his own.

The route isn't important. What matters is the result.

Though if you end up sober with a bunch of harming psychotwaddle in your brain, you may not be in a better situation. Or you may be.

I did know one pisshead who quit alcohol. He felt great for 6 months, his life stabilised, and he was having a ball. Then everything fell apart again. Turned out he'd be using alcohol to mitigate the worst aspects of his underlying bipolar (manic-depressive) condition. OTOH, a sober fruitcake is probably better than a drunk one, and will probably live longer.

edit: sasguru is a postbox. That explains a great deal.

[Spacecadet]

Get married, it sorted my boozing out

Posted from under my wifes thumb