The Zionist plot sickens

[Dundeegeorge]

Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh

even if the guy was not jewish, this is wrong behavior for an official under the apparent conditions

Irving should not have been jailed.
Irving has never been convincing anyway with his "historical" books and his love for Adolf Hitler.

Irving should have been jailed.
Denying the holocaust is illegal in Austria.
He did it. He went back to Austria. He went to jail.
The fact that he's a not very good historian with little talent for self-preservation is here nor there.
Red Ken is an utter arse. He shouldn't have insulted the reporter though. He should have decked the bastard. The meeja are vermin and should be treated as such.

[shaunbhoy]

Lock Irving and Livingstone up together. That ought to be suitable punishment for both, and at half the normal cost!

[BoredBloke]

Red Ken promotes political correctness and so it is fit and proper that he gets punished when he says things which are not politically correct.

Also, I would have expected anybody with political asperations to be well versed in saying the right thing. Obviously what he said was going to get reported. This simply backs up what I have always thought of red Ken. He is an idiot - plain and simple.

[xoggoth]

Agree it was not an anti-semitic remark in any way, just a commonplace remark to a hectoring sort. Some people are way too sensitive, or perhaps more likely, making a big issues of it sells their crappy newspaper.

One cannot expect anyone to self censor every single thing they say just in case somebody somewhere might take offence. We need rather more honesty in politics not less.

[meridian]

And we need less name-calling and more grown-up responsible pollies.

Just out of curiosity, how is calling someone a Nazi prison guard "honesty" in politics?

[xoggoth]

Honesty as in say what you think. Needs to be within reason obviously. Pity people at all levels were not more honest about a whole lot of things when it could have made a difference.

[meridian]

I agree up to a point. It would have been more honest of Ken to stand up and say, "sorry chaps I was a bit of an arse", but he's had to drag the whole turgid affair on and on and on....

[sunnysan]

Hmmm

Maybe he felt the same way some of us do here....

Why should he be pushed around and made to sing to the tune of a sensitive and petty minority group?

He is still a complete and utter wnaker though....

[vetran]

It was a 'hate crime'

He made a remark that was obviously offensive due to the mans race/faith.

Red Ken probably cheered when Boris had to apologise etc.

Why suspended on full pay, if I had made a similar remark whilst on a customers site I'd expect to be reprimanded strongly or even sacked from my permie job not given a months holiday to spend with the kids.

[Fungus]

He made a remark that was obviously offensive due to the mans race/faith.

Red Ken probably cheered when Boris had to apologise etc.

Why suspended on full pay, if I had made a similar remark whilst on a customers site I'd expect to be reprimanded strongly or even sacked from my permie job not given a months holiday to spend with the kids.

Oh for goodness sake. He was making the point that the reporter was behaving like a concentration camp guard i.e. blindly obeying orders. Clearly he considered a concentration camp guard as an example of bad employment. It's not as if he said "I really really approve of concentration camp guards. We need more of that kind of person."

And anyway, the papers are ignoring the context. The Evening Standard had been harassing Red Ken, so he's hardly likely to be polite to reporters now is he? Doh.

So what we have is a paper routinely harassing him, and when he gets riled and responds, he's slapped down, much to the delight of the Evening Standard.

I don't much like Red Ken's politics, but this business is nonsense dressed up as substance.

And while I'm ranting, I don't think Boris Johnson should have apologised. I agreed with the sentiments, as I suspect did a lot of people, but to print them when he did was crass and foolish. What did he expect?