Global Warming costs mounting up

[pjclarke]

Tinfoil hat time.

Jumping on the popular green bandwagon - loads of votes in it

That would explain the massive electoral success of the Green Party, then.

Massive tax raising power with a wonderful camouflage so no backlash

Not a reality-based proposal , I am afraid

"For despite promising to be "the greenest ever Chancellor", Gordon Brown presided over a 22 per cent fall in green taxes as a proportion of total revenue – to 7.3 per cent, the lowest since 1987. "

Or perhaps Osbourne is eyeing up a green stealth tax ... or maybe not:

"every penny of additional green tax revenues is used to reduce taxes elsewhere"

The IPCC was formed in 1988. Seems a lot of trouble to go to, just to erm, not put up overall taxes 22 years later.

Exerting sizable control over peoples lives - power being the ultimate aim of all politicians

And those pesky National Academies of Science , all creating a completely fake phenomenon just so Boris Johnson can force people out of their cars and onto bikes er..... or maybe you had some other example of 'sizable control' in mind?

No doubt there are some politicos who have hopped aboard the bandwagon, twas ever thus. And Al Gore has a big house. But the implication that this is all some conspiracy, presumably dating back to Arrhenius and now magically melting the Arctic by some unknown technology and altering the migratory and reproductive patterns of the world’s wildlife gives paranoid conspiracy a bad name.

[EternalOptimist]

not a conspiracy.


the words groupthink, mass hysteria, delusion and green zealotry spring to mind

[pjclarke]

A synthesis of nearly 400,000 first flowering records covering 405 species across the UK found that British plants are flowering earlier now than at any time in the last 250 years.

Tell me, are the flowers suffering from delusional groupthink, zealotry or mass hysteria?

Enquiring minds wish to know.

[cojak]

Global warming is happening and trying to fix it is like trying to fix the banks - just pissing in the wind.

And since I don't have kids I'll just have to sit back and enjoy it.

[EternalOptimist]

Tell me, are the flowers suffering from delusional groupthink, zealotry or mass hysteria?

Enquiring minds wish to know.

The flowers my friend, are blowing in the wind. They will flower earlier , or later , as the climate varies and as the seasons vary.

What they dont do, is try to sell me a line.

[BlasterBates]

Before you can claim CO2 caused the warming between 1980 and 2000, you have to understand what caused the warming between 1910-1940. Then what caused the cooling between 1940-1970.

...and then when you've understood that you can perhaps claim that 1980-2000 warming was unexpected. But you can't. There was a record solar maximum in that period.

Easterbrook explains it well, and I suggest people read it. The ice core data shows it.



The temperatures are going plummet

Sit back and enjoy the show. As Piers Corbyn says, 2011 will be the Stalingrad of AGW.

[BlasterBates]

A new paper refuting the radiative imbalance that supposedly caused by CO2.

http://www.pas.rochester.edu/~dougla...ress_final.pdf

results fail to support the existence of a frequently-cited positive computed radiative imbalance

using only 2003-2008 data we find cooling not warming

Looks like the scientists are onto the ocean cooling which is the first sign of a global cooling that will start in earnest about now.

Lets look



brrr looks chilly.

...and while we're at it lets just check the La Nina index, that is a leading indicator of global temperature:



...wow that's quite a drop in one week, and the La Nina is expected to get colder until about March...it's going to be a big one.

[TimberWolf]

Is there one available for sea temperatures without the anomaly business, whatever that is? It would be handy to see where is good to go for a swimming holiday.

[Old Greg]

Before you can claim CO2 caused the warming between 1980 and 2000, you have to understand what caused the warming between 1910-1940. Then what caused the cooling between 1940-1970.

...and then when you've understood that you can perhaps claim that 1980-2000 warming was unexpected. But you can't. There was a record solar maximum in that period.

Easterbrook explains it well, and I suggest people read it. The ice core data shows it.



The temperatures are going plummet

Sit back and enjoy the show. As Piers Corbyn says, 2011 will be the Stalingrad of AGW.

What is the alternate view?

[DimPrawn]

What is the alternate view?

That the small variations over a relatively short period in climate terms are driven mostly by natural variations, not human activity.

So taxing the tulipe out of energy usage only makes everyones std of living lower and makes feck all difference to temperature, sea levels, distruptive weather events etc, and only serves to buy Al Gore and even bigger mansion.

PHOTOS: Al Gore's New $8.875 Million Montecito Villa