Reply to: Global Warming costs mounting up

[RichardCranium]

Can someone please let me know when this Global Warming actually means we don't have a ******* freezing winter and a washout cold summer for a change?

Have you tried bleeding the radiators?

[DimPrawn]

Can someone please let me know when this Global Warming actually means we don't have a ******* freezing winter and a washout cold summer for a change?

Cheers,

PS If it's in the next 20 years that would be great.

[BlasterBates]

Fake Conferences

I checked this conference out, which was a so called fake conference.

IEEE Xplore - ITAP 2010 Welcome

I can assure you that anything published by the IEEE is not fake.

Sounds like desperation, climate "scientists" trying to smear anything they don't agree with.

Lets wait for the temperatures to plunge.

[BlasterBates]

But the real interesting question is how are you going to explain the rapid cooling from 2010 onwards.



I'm looking forward to that one.

Lets peer into history to see what the scientists were saying in 1982:

[Old Greg]

All explained here:

Don J. Easterbrook, Research Publications: Global climate change | global warming

As long as it really does explain the alternate view and isn't just a book by a geologist rubbishing the alternate view, I'll have a look.

[BlasterBates]

That's just the conclusion (or rather on of the outcomes within a range) - isn't there any more to in than that?

All explained here:

Don J. Easterbrook, Research Publications: Global climate change | global warming

[Old Greg]

The alternate view is that the temperature will rise 4 degrees by the end of the century.

Dream on. The way the Sun is going, now looking increasingly more like the Maunder Minimum.

Which means....a huge drop in temperatures

Starting this year.

That's just the conclusion (or rather on of the outcomes within a range) - isn't there any more to in than that?

[EternalOptimist]

I think you should be doing that.

you seriously want me to outline the cagw case ?

[BlasterBates]

The alternate view is that the temperature will rise 4 degrees by the end of the century, because of rising CO2 levels

Dream on. The way the Sun is going, now looking increasingly more like the Maunder Minimum.

Which means....a huge drop in temperatures

Starting this year.

[Old Greg]

can you give me a quick paragraph on the stance of those who are not suspicious of people who are unable or unwilling to demonstrate an understanding of the alternate view to their position ?

I think you should be doing that.

[EternalOptimist]

I'm always suspicious of people who are unable or unwilling to demonstrate an understanding of the alternate view to their position.

can you give me a quick paragraph on the stance of those who are not suspicious of people who are unable or unwilling to demonstrate an understanding of the alternate view to their position ?

[hyperD]

Wow, nice pad. You gotta admire that, the lizard did good.

Now that I've read Chicken Licken, where's my funding?

[Old Greg]

That the small variations over a relatively short period in climate terms are driven mostly by natural variations, not human activity.

So taxing the tulipe out of energy usage only makes everyones std of living lower and makes feck all difference to temperature, sea levels, distruptive weather events etc, and only serves to buy Al Gore and even bigger mansion.

PHOTOS: Al Gore's New $8.875 Million Montecito Villa

I'm always suspicious of people who are unable or unwilling to demonstrate an understanding of the alternate view to their position.

[DimPrawn]

What is the alternate view?

That the small variations over a relatively short period in climate terms are driven mostly by natural variations, not human activity.

So taxing the tulipe out of energy usage only makes everyones std of living lower and makes feck all difference to temperature, sea levels, distruptive weather events etc, and only serves to buy Al Gore and even bigger mansion.

PHOTOS: Al Gore's New $8.875 Million Montecito Villa

[Old Greg]

Before you can claim CO2 caused the warming between 1980 and 2000, you have to understand what caused the warming between 1910-1940. Then what caused the cooling between 1940-1970.

...and then when you've understood that you can perhaps claim that 1980-2000 warming was unexpected. But you can't. There was a record solar maximum in that period.

Easterbrook explains it well, and I suggest people read it. The ice core data shows it.



The temperatures are going plummet

Sit back and enjoy the show. As Piers Corbyn says, 2011 will be the Stalingrad of AGW.

What is the alternate view?