It´s the sun stupid

[DimPrawn]

That big yellow thing a few light minutes away which is like a billion hydrogen bombs exploding every second has no impact on the Earth's climate, never has and never will.

Sun's Variations Have Little Effect on Global Warming | LiveScience

However, the exhaust gas from your neighbours Aygo is another matter.

[BlasterBates]

This comment is representative of the Met office view last year, and all the climate scientists advising them:

"The famously cold winter of 1962/63 is now expected to occur about once every 1,000 years or more, compared with approximately every 100 to 200 years before 1850."

Met Office: Coldest winter for a decade

It really is complete crap to suggest what Dr David Viner said was that we´d have tough winters.


...and from the Independent in 2000

Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. "We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time," he said.

The chances are certainly now stacked against the sortof heavy snowfall in cities that inspired Impressionist painters, such as Sisley, and the 19th century poet laureate Robert Bridges, who wrote in "London Snow" of it, "stealthily and perpetually settling and loosely lying".

Not any more, it seems.

Pretty clear what Dr Viner meant.

[DimPrawn]

Maybe Dr Viner just needs much bigger government funding to hone down his science skills?

[DimPrawn]

perhaps its time to move on to some science....

Yeah, when the AGW alarmists actually get round to doing some with some solid testable conclusions, please let us know.

[Spacecadet]

1. As GHGs continue to accumulate, the global mean temperature will show a rising long term trend, however as this increase is due to the atmosphere retaining more heat (simplistically stated) the stratosphere will cool just as the troposphere warms. If the waming was due to some other external factor, e.g. increased solar radiation, the stratosphere would not cool.

There Ya go...

Total solar radiation is pretty much constant.

However, the Sun gives off a lot more than just heat and the understanding of the interaction between the heliosphere and our own atmosphere still seems to be way to low to rule out the sun as the main cause of medium term global changes in climate.

[DimPrawn]

1. As GHGs continue to accumulate, the global mean temperature will show a rising long term trend, however as this increase is due to the atmosphere retaining more heat (simplistically stated) the stratosphere will cool just as the troposphere warms. If the waming was due to some other external factor, e.g. increased solar radiation, the stratosphere would not cool.

There Ya go...

So should I invest my money in

a). Carbon credits
b). Snow plough manufacturers
c). A vineyard and an olive grove in Kent

[Spacecadet]

So should I invest my money in

a). Carbon credits
b). Snow plough manufacturers
c). A vineyard and an olive grove in Kent

Green Energy companies, after all those carbon tax pounds will be going straight to them in the form of guaranteed energy purchase prices

[BlasterBates]

This is the reality:

“The year 2010 will be the coldest for ten years in Germany,” said Thomas Globig from the weather service Meteo Media talking to wetter.info . And it might even get worse: “It is quite possible that we are at the beginning of a Little Ice Age,” the meteorologist said. Even the Arctic ice could spread further to the south.



It is already clear: the average temperatures in Germany this year (8.1 degrees Celsius) were 0.2 degrees below the long term measured average of 8.3 degrees. “I fear we will end up still significantly lower by the end of the year”, said Globig. The long-term average is actually the average of all German stations from 1961 to 1990.

How Germany’s weather team views the “hottest year ever” | Watts Up With That?


...and what is the Central England temperature record doing:




....oh look it has cooled steadily by 0.5 degrees since 2005.


Get with it...

The Met office and David Viner live in their own fantasy land.

[Doggy Styles]

Thomas Globig? Is that a made-up name?