It´s the sun stupid

[pjclarke]

Yeeees. Hadn't really thought about it in depth before, but stands to reason dunnit? 8 inches of snow on Heathrow must mean global warming is bunk. The models project an increase of 0.4C / decade. Clearly this means that every winter will be exactly 0.04C warmer than the last. I look out my window and I see snow. Ergo the models are rubbish. QED. Yep, can't fault the logic there. Game Over.

Some say this novel circulation pattern pulling down Arctic air over Northern Europe (leaving Northern Canada unseasonally warm, it balances out globally, y'see.) was predicted by Dr James Overland as a consequence of climate change but he is obviously part of the global conspiracy of people who know what they are talking about and so not to be trusted.

I wonder if Boris knows that Piers Corbyn said in 2008 that

Global warming is over and it never was anything to do with CO2. CO2 is still rising but the world is now cooling and will continue to do so

Shall we see how that went? Clearly a man of remarkable clairvoyance. In the same year he warned us of a severely cold January with -17C in the Midlands. Turned out to be one of the warmest Januaries on record. Can't win em all, I guess.

Pascal Mailier invited Corbyn to participate in his peer-reviewed study of the skill of private forecasters, published in Nature. You'd think he'd jump of the chance to prove the value of his method, but in fact he didn't even reply to the invite. No doubt he has his reasons. Evaluating forecast skill is more compex than it seems (I predict it will snow again in January, somewhere in the UK, probably) but there have been informal surveys of Mr Corbyn's weather horoscopes. ....

[BlasterBates]

Interesting...on CNN they posed the question has the "climate changed" so should they invest heavily in snow clearing equipment.

The Chief Executive at Gatwick believed so and the invested heavily snow clearing equipment after last Winter (i.e. they believed Piers Corbyn and not the Met office) result is their airport is still open. The CEO at Heathrow still believed in the once in 20 year sceario, result Heathrow closed.

The question you have to ask yourself is why is the Chief Scientist entertaining the question of "clmate change" (i.e. cooling and severe winters) when this was quite clearly answered by Dr David Viner who stated snow was a thing of the past.

They must all be cretins.

....still snow there in Australia....must just be a bit of unclement weather.

[BlasterBates]

I think this sums up the Met office:


Warm Bias: How The Met Office Misleads The British Public | Watts Up With That?

[pjclarke]

Bit early to be writing off a December to February forecast dontcha think? Some quality scientific sources there though, well done to Doctor Peiser

Here's a quiz. The Met Office Press Office said 2009 was 'odds-on for a barbecue summer'. The actual quantative numbers were a 65% probability of a warmer-than-average and near-or drier-than-average summer.

Q. Were UK temperatures in the summer of 2009 actually


a) Colder than average?

b) About average?

c) Above average ?

Click

[EternalOptimist]

you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. But you cant fool all of the people all of the time.
The game is up for the green eco-fascists

[BlasterBates]

Bit early to be writing off a December to February forecast dontcha think? Some quality scientific sources there though, well done to Doctor Peiser

Here's a quiz. The Met Office Press Office said 2009 was 'odds-on for a barbecue summer'. The actual quantative numbers were a 65% probability of a warmer-than-average and near-or drier-than-average summer.

Q. Were UK temperatures in the summer of 2009 actually


a) Colder than average?

b) About average?

c) Above average ?

Click

So why is the chief scientist entertaining the question of climate change from the Transport minister?

It´s on the news, and was debated in parliament. "A step change in the climate" was the Transport Secretary´s words.

Gets difficult to ignore doesn´t it.

Still mother nature will continue to speak...and the winters will get increasingly severe, as the twerps in East Anglia University and the Met office slowly become irrelevant.

What was it that Dr David Viner said?

"In a few years, Children just aren't going to know what snow is,"

[pjclarke]

David Viner never used those words.

You're quoting a journalist's paraphrase from over a decade ago. In preference to over a thousand scientific studies, the IPCC reports, hundreds of books etc, none of which predict the imminent departure of snow from these shores.

Why?

[BlasterBates]

...yes he did...but you´re using the standard answer because the headline wasn´t what he said.

I quoted Dr Viner´s words in the report, they were in quotation marks.

A sorry state the AGW supporters are in , Ive noticed that quite a lot, just rebut something because he didn´t use those exact words.

Dr Viner didn´t say "in a few short years there wouldn´t be snow" he said "in a few years snow would hardly be any snow"...

Anway feel free to put his exact verbage in your next post, it doesn´t really change anything.

[pjclarke]

I quoted Dr Viner´s words in the report, they were in quotation marks.

Not all of them. Viner did say "Children just aren't going to know what snow is". He did not say "in a few years". That timeframe was added by the journalist. It may or may not be an accurate paraphrase. We don't know, but it seems a fairly thin hook on which to hang a condemnation of an entire discipline.

Viner did say

"We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time"

And here we are, just ten years later, in the middle of snowy chaos .....

[BlasterBates]

"snow will cause chaos in 20 years time"

Means snow will come once in a blue moon.

... and now they trying to interpret that is we´ll have tons of snow in 20 years.




They way AGW supporters twist words is absolutely incredible.