New Climate Model from NASA scientists

[EternalOptimist]

I think the onus is on you to supply an example of uncorrected and erroneous alarmism. Arguably the worst climate scientific error in recent times was the projection of Himalayan Glacier meltdown in the IPCC Working Group II report, and their apology is here.

No media outlet seemed to feel the need to issue an apology on that occasion, perhaps because the proper section on the physical science of the glaciers (WGI) was accurate, perhaps because the claim was not made in any of the key summaries and was not reported at the time it was published. This may explain why it went unremarked for two years.

'AmazonGate', of course, was an embarrassment for the Sunday Times, not the IPCC.

Brilliant, so there are errors on both sides, in some of the more peripheral rags, which I think we are all aware of. Fastening on such an error gets us nowhere, stick to the facts and the science pj

[pjclarke]

Brilliant, so there are errors on both sides,

Ah, so now you bring up the idea of false equivalence, of two 'sides', both equally flawed. Sorry, but this is simply wrong. What we actually have is an overwhelming majority amongst scientists who spend their professional lives studying these matters that human activity is affecting the climate in a potentially extremely damaging way, versus a tiny percentage of dissenters who, for whatever reason, resist this idea.

Consider, for a moment, the evidence. Go read the IPCC reports , or the summaries , or just the FAQs . Then consider, again for just a moment, that the dissenter BlasterBates considers relevant an article about a study written by someone who quite obviously had not read the study.

And feel free to draw your own conclusions.

[EternalOptimist]

And feel free to draw your own conclusions.

I do.

good luck pj in everything , and a happy Christmas

[EternalOptimist]

The Register demonstrates how climate myths are created

I hear that the frogs didnt die due to AGW after all, and the polar bears are doing ok, and there is ice at the north pole and the sea hasnt swallowed up Holland.

why dont you come back when you have something real pj. something tangible.

signed - a tiny minority of irrational, holocaust denying, voodoo science, dissenters, whose views dont count.

[Spacecadet]

I hear that the frogs didnt die due to AGW after all, and the polar bears are doing ok, and there is ice at the north pole and the sea hasnt swallowed up Holland.

why dont you come back when you have something real pj. something tangible.

signed - a tiny minority of irrational, holocaust denying, voodoo science, dissenters, whose views dont count.

Great, you've just asked him to post another 1000 climate warming links

[EternalOptimist]

Great, you've just asked him to post another 1000 climate warming links

well...'false equivilence' i ask you

thats saying that we dont count because we oppose the orthodoxy. I wonder if pj would ever consider using force to get his way over these issues ?

if the dissenters get their way and continue to destroy the planet, would he consider violence ?

[DimPrawn]

Bring back the death penalty.

But only for those who oppose the great AGW religion.

Jihad!

[Doggy Styles]

Actually, the snow has stopped in London and the sun has come out. Does that prove it?

[BlasterBates]

Looks like it was the cosmic rays after all:

The Great Beyond: Sunny days for CLOUD experiment

Sometimes scientists get it completely wrong, but usually other scientists come along and put it right.

Interesting isn´t it how around the globe in Argentina, North America, China, Europe, how the winters have got progressively colder since the sun went quiet.

I think when these guys publish AGW will be dead, especially since it is abundantly clear the trend for colder winters will continue.

[DimPrawn]

Looks like it was the cosmic rays after all:

The Great Beyond: Sunny days for CLOUD experiment

Sometimes scientists get it completely wrong, but usually other scientists come along and put it right.

Interesting isn´t it how around the globe in Argentina, North America, China, Europe, how the winters have got progressively colder since the sun went quiet.

I think when these guys publish AGW will be dead, especially since it is abundantly clear the trend for colder winters will continue.

I post a series of links the other days showing record breaking cold around the globe in 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006 etc.

Strangely enough the solar minimum started at this time and peaked at a low last year and this year.

It's almost as if the sun has some influence on our climate rather than a few ppm of a mild greenhouse gas.

Tax the sun out of the sky!