The state is a thief

[MrRobin]

No they don't, it hardly makes no difference to the huge national debt.

Plus grads will have less money to spend in society as they have the fees to pay back, with INTEREST.

Grads have to pay back fees now as it is! Under the new proposals, they will pay back less per month, so intact there will be more money available to them to spend.

True, they will have to pay for longer now, but perhaps it will make them think twice about taking on those Mickey Mouse / Badger Grooming degrees which they know fully well aren't worth much in the real world but they just want 3 years of 2 lectures a week and spending the rest of the time in the boozer...

[xoggoth]

No riots in Grosvenor Square

I was there. I went through a lefty radical period. It ended when me and my mate discovered that all lefty birds are ugly.

[doodab]

Badger Grooming

What else is university for if not to groom a few badgers?

[Doggy Styles]

What else is university for if not to groom a few badgers?

And beavers.

[contractor79]

People who don't mind fees are duped, are rather silly. This is a huge tax on the middle class.

The selfish baby boomer generation's hippy ways are coming home to roost. They want their unfunded pensions but don't want their kids or grandkids to get state-funded education like they enjoyed.

The hippy generation are the most selfish vile generation there is in modern times. Compare and contrast with their selfless more Christian parents generation who bravely fought in world war 2.

[Mich the Tester]

The hippy generation are the most selfish vile generation there is in modern times. Compare and contrast with their selfless more Christian parents generation who bravely fought in world war 2.

My grandparents were all atheists. They all fought in WW2. Yes, all of them on the allied side before anyone asks.

My parents are of the 'hippy generation'. The only thing I find vile about them is their taste in interior decoration.

[contractor79]

My grandparents were all atheists. They all fought in WW2. Yes, all of them on the allied side before anyone asks.

My parents are of the 'hippy generation'. The only thing I find vile about them is their taste in interior decoration.

This country was far more Christian back in those days. They weren't stupid enough to think atheism was cool. There are always outliers or oddities.

[contractor79]

Grads have to pay back fees now as it is! Under the new proposals, they will pay back less per month, so intact there will be more money available to them to spend.

True, they will have to pay for longer now, but perhaps it will make them think twice about taking on those Mickey Mouse / Badger Grooming degrees which they know fully well aren't worth much in the real world but they just want 3 years of 2 lectures a week and spending the rest of the time in the boozer...

Brainwashed and duped - just as the politicians like it.

They pay back less per month FOR MUCH LONGER WITH INTEREST i.e. they pay a lot more.

It's a huge stealth tax on people who don't get free school meals.

[MrRobin]

Brainwashed and duped - just as the politicians like it.

They pay back less per month FOR MUCH LONGER WITH INTEREST i.e. they pay a lot more.

It's a huge stealth tax on people who don't get free school meals.

I have not been duped, I know exactly what it means.

What's the other option then? Keep things as they are, at the cost of other public services? Raise general taxation? Introduce a graduate tax?

[Sysman]

I was there. I went through a lefty radical period. It ended when me and my mate discovered that all lefty birds are ugly.

I have it on good authority that the reason most demo attendees really went was to meet members of the opposite sex.