Some people take this "Thatch" hatred too far

[GreenLabel]

Adapt, change, survive.

The miners could not do it, I can.

To hell with that. Easier to sit around on your arse playing the victim card, blaming the person who supposedly took away your job (never mind that it wasn't commercially viable in the first place) for your troubles than to move on and do something productive.

[Bagpuss]

To hell with that. Easier to sit around on your arse playing the victim card, blaming the person who supposedly took away your job (never mind that it wasn't commercially viable in the first place) for your troubles than to move on and do something productive.

Like post on CUK all day

[GreenLabel]

Do you view it as a good thing that big corp can cut costs under the banner of free enterprise?

Yes.

[minestrone]

Is that really true? I'd say we were probably richer under John Major or Blair. Give us some numbers.

My first degree was free under Thatcher, Blair put tertiary education costs into the tens of thousands.

[minestrone]

To hell with that. Easier to sit around on your arse playing the victim card, blaming the person who supposedly took away your job (never mind that it wasn't commercially viable in the first place) for your troubles than to move on and do something productive.

Spot on.

It was the NUM who ruined the miner's communties, forcing division on them, forcing miner to fight miner.

All they had to do was sit down and say "the industry is over, we know it, give us some money to retrain, help us"

They would rather starve themsleves half to death than do that.

[Bagpuss]

My first degree was free under Thatcher, Blair put tertiary education costs into the tens of thousands.

Grants were cancelled under Thatcher, admittedly Blair went further. To be honest I couldn't care less, the emperor was proven to be clothless and has led us into the collapse we will be paying for generations to come.
Everything you throw up as a success I can point out how it came to fail. Yes some people got rich for a bit, but we will be a third world country in 100 yrs time for that very short sightedness. The thing that makes me laugh so much is a bunch of skiving moaners having little sympathy for people who actually wanted to work. OK pull the plug on industry and pretend it's inevitable, doesn't seem to be the case for Germany however, their manufacturing has gone from strength to strength but then they were not such Milton Freeman zealots. Even the man himself realised his own failings.

[gingerjedi]

To hell with that. Easier to sit around on your arse playing the victim card, blaming the person who supposedly took away your job (never mind that it wasn't commercially viable in the first place) for your troubles than to move on and do something productive.

Global corp makes decisions to maximise profit, viability isn't a consideration when totting up the spreadsheet, nor is social impact.

It's sad that people like you care so much about some faceless corporation yet so little about the communities they toss aside.

[minestrone]

Grants were cancelled under Thatcher, admittedly Blair went further. To be honest I couldn't care less, the emperor was proven to be clothless and has led us into the collapse we will be paying for generations to come.
Everything you throw up as a success I can point out how it came to fail. Yes some people got rich for a bit, but we will be a third world country in 100 yrs time for that very short sightedness. The thing that makes me laugh so much is a bunch of skiving moaners having little sympathy for people who actually wanted to work. OK pull the plug on industry and pretend it's inevitable, doesn't seem to be the case for Germany however, their manufacturing has gone from strength to strength but then they were not such Milton Freeman zealots. Even the man himself realised his own failings.

Wanted to work? You are having a laugh.

The miners got screwed over when the country remembered what they did in 73. Thatcher shafted them royaly and I am glad she did. Scargill was a tyrant and the image of him getting huckled by the police was one I remember from my youth with great fondness.



Always been a Thatcherite and always will be.

[minestrone]

I prefer this one...

[Pondlife]

Adapt, change, survive.

The miners could not do it, I can.

Contracting is dead, seriously. I'm in an office filled with bobs on 18 grand a year. They may be shoite but management would rather hire 5 of them to the one of me.

Yup, sounds like you're fine with it.