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Which PM course to take up. Switch from Techie to PM.
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Originally posted by SofaKingdom View PostWhat about ambition? Surely most people want an alternative to being a code monkey for 40 yearsWhile you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Originally posted by SupremeSpod View PostHow was I to know that the last bloke I said that to really was a one-legged outer-mongolian goats cheese manufacturer who was 5th in line to the Mongolian throne?
Something about that bastards story just didn't ring true!
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Onwards. markinbrussels, thanks for tip I was deciding between PMP and Prince2 as well. As already mentioned, had a look a the job boards and the bias seems to be ever so slightly towards PMP at the mo. Not sure if one can read up at home and just go sit the exam? If that's the case then that's one week more having mum's curries at home for lunch rather than at the study center when I go home for holidays In fact, if it's just the case of giving an exam, might as well give it here. Will look into it. Cheers.
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d000hg, They wouldn't waste time sending me such an email in the first place if they were happy to go with the hi-flying PMs with 10 years of experience. Hence my reply would depend on the role in question, but would by and large highlight the little experience I have (Release Management, Team Lead, some Technical Programme Management), the certifications I would have obtained and most importantly how my skill level and remuneration expectations fit in with the client's project scope and budget. Don't have a ton of experience going in my favour in negotiating contracts (well none really!) and in working out what a prospective client's position really is when he/she sends me the kind of mail you mention. The money may not be much at the beginning, but I feel that's a fair trade-off for the steep learning curve.Comment
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Originally posted by Greatlookinguy View PostThey wouldn't waste time sending me such an email in the first place if they were happy to go with the hi-flying PMs with 10 years of experience. Hence my reply would depend on the role in question, but would by and large highlight the little experience I have (Release Management, Team Lead, some Technical Programme Management), the certifications I would have obtained and most importantly how my skill level and remuneration expectations fit in with the client's project scope and budget. Don't have a ton of experience going in my favour in negotiating contracts (well none really!) and in working out what a prospective client's position really is when he/she sends me the kind of mail you mention. The money may not be much at the beginning, but I feel that's a fair trade-off for the steep learning curve.
Saving £100/day is tiny compared with the cost of an inexperienced PM screwing up a project - that could be £100s or £1000s per day.
Not having a go at you, but since a PM is managing multiple people and therefore handling £1000s/day in terms of expenditure, I can't see why you'd take the risk for a small saving.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by rsingh View PostIt's my username and real name. I was born in Birmingham. I am one of the many that are not tee-total.Never has a man been heard to say on his death bed that he wishes he'd spent more time in the office.Comment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostYou're not really selling yourself well. It seems you're selling point is "I'm cheaper than an experienced PM".
Saving £100/day is tiny compared with the cost of an inexperienced PM screwing up a project - that could be £100s or £1000s per day.
Not having a go at you, but since a PM is managing multiple people and therefore handling £1000s/day in terms of expenditure, I can't see why you'd take the risk for a small saving.
Is it impossible to make it in the field this way?
I just hope that the kind of roles that thundelizard mentioned.. i.e. low paid, hard working, very low budget etc etc... are actually out there. I don't mind putting in the hard work and long hours.
But if the answer is a resounding NO and that nothing can come of my efforts, be it certifications or communication skills, well, I guess I will just have to keep looking.
Do you have a better suggestion?Last edited by Greatlookinguy; 27 August 2010, 14:03.Comment
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Originally posted by rsingh View PostIt's my username and real name. I was born in Birmingham. I am one of the many that are not tee-total.Comment
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If it's money you're looking for then PM gigs pay nowt much these days.If your company is the best place to work in, for a mere £500 p/d, you can advertise here.Comment
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Originally posted by SupremeSpod View PostShouldn't you be shopping... At the Trafford Centre....<shudder>
But I managed to get a cheap, sparkly and no doubt crippling, pair of heelsI'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this
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