Cyberman must be back by now, which new user is he?

[cojak]

Ta.

[OwlHoot]

.. ISTM that the prevalent view on here is, bugger the civilised community and the concern for others, just let me have as much money as possible.

A civilized society doesn't stay that way for long if taxes keep rising.

If you don't believe me, try reading Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, for a start.

[DodgyAgent]

I care about other people, I think that government is instituted to secure certain civilised ends, that it represenst the community, and that it has an extensive range of tasks delegated by us to ensure that this is a civilised community.

ISTM that the prevalent view on here is, bugger the civilised community and the concern for others, just let me have as much money as possible.

In what way exactly do you care about other people, because so far all you have managed to prove is that you are a self righteous pR*ck

[Doggy Styles]

I care about other people, I think that government is instituted to secure certain civilised ends, that it represenst the community, and that it has an extensive range of tasks delegated by us to ensure that this is a civilised community.

Until it goes bust!

Sorry tarquin, but every time I see quotes like that I can't help laughing at the naivity.

[realityhack]

Tarquin - read 'Understanding Power' by Noam Chomsky.
Seriously.

It might change your view of governments and their actual role in society, it might not, but it's worth the 400 pages of effort.

[NickFitz]

Originally posted at Something Awful, reposted at Reddit, re-reposted at kottke.org: I am an American Conservative Shitheel

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

[MarillionFan]

What a great thread.

Take 3 moderators into the shower Tarquin....

[ThomasSoerensen]

I thought Cyberman dies in the global flu-pandemic last year along with 23 billion other great people.