1001 reasons NEVER to vote TORY

[Jabberwocky]

seems to be doing alright to me. Could do with some more competition though

We need water - there are no alternatives - demand is fixed - price is therefore infinite in a competitive market to maximise profits. Reality is price set by regulator. Flawed system at least applied to water. Simple enough for you ?

[Lucifer Box]

How is demand for water fixed in an expanding population? Do we all drink less each year to compensate?

[Jabberwocky]

UK has pretty small growth in population and anyway greater demand pushes the price even higher !

[Dundeegeorge]

LB, stop using logic

How is demand for water fixed in an expanding population? Do we all drink less each year to compensate?

Remember we're in S*c**lstLand now.

[BoredBloke]

"Still, as long as those of you with Rich mummies and daddies were and are OK."

My 'mummy and daddy' were not rich, but were not on the dole either. They too faced tough times in the 80's. The simple fact is, my dad latched onto something which meant he wasn't effected by the 80's recession as much as some others. Indeed, in the 70's when we lived in Holland and Labour were in power (1976-78) he had his best years of work because he worked overseas, but wasn't paid in sterling. As sterling dropped, he got a payrise every week. So that is something to thank Labour for.

Please name one industry which Thatcher destroyed which wasn't artificially propped up.

Also, out of interest, what did your parents do in the 80's

[Xerxes]

UK has pretty small growth in population and anyway greater demand pushes the price even higher !

The UK population grew by 280,600 people in the year to mid-2004 - a medium sized city every year, so not really "pretty small" at all. Also, increased demand only pushes prices higher if supply is fixed, which it isn't either.

So, in summary, neither demand nor supply are fixed.

[DodgyAgent]

Capitalism is not perfect

We need water - there are no alternatives - demand is fixed - price is therefore infinite in a competitive market to maximise profits. Reality is price set by regulator. Flawed system at least applied to water. Simple enough for you ?

You are about as close as you are going to get knobjockey. Indeed where elements of competition cannot be introduced it is one of the challenges that governments face to make these Industries efficient. Writing blank cheques in is not the answer and nor is a privatisation monopoly the answer.

One of the challenges that the right have had to accept is that public services and the poor cannot be ignored and left to the vagaries of capitalism or socialism. David Cameron has proved this. At least capitalism is honest enough to admit that the weak will not survive,
Before you lefties get all excited traditional socialist led practices (running public services for the benefit of the providers) will also have to change.

[Lucifer Box]

Thank you, Xerxes, It's good to get some facts injected into these little debates.

So, Knobjockey, as neither supply nor demand are fixed, how does that work?

[BoredBloke]

"We need water - there are no alternatives "

Actually in years gone by, when clean water was not on tap, people used to drink beer instead of water.

[Jabberwocky]

The UK population grew by 280,600 people in the year to mid-2004 - a medium sized city every year, so not really "pretty small" at all. Also, increased demand only pushes prices higher if supply is fixed, which it isn't either.

So, in summary, neither demand nor supply are fixed.

Ar*sehole - out of a population of 60 million that under 0.5% growth - small for business growth - and supply is limited because there is a limited supply of rain. FFS people - try harder !