Seeking asylum from Canada

[AtW]

Jesus Christ ........... ok quick lesson for you.

An 80 year old man is the SON of someone.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7054793.ece

"Serge Serykh, 43, his wife, and his stepson, from the former Soviet Union, plunged to their deaths on Sunday morning"

43 years old, I'd say he probably married in 20s, so his son is not likely to be much over 20.

It's ok for him to die then in your view with his parents jumping off the building.

It's not fine by me.

[AtW]

Jesus Christ ........... ok quick lesson for you.

An 80 year old man is the SON of someone.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-22096753/

"The desperate mother, father and 21-year-old son tied themselves together before their 15-storey plunge on Sunday morning."

It's ******* crazy tragedy, just because their son isn't under 16 does not make it less so.

[sunnysan]

Excerpt from BBC

"We've been told that the father, mother and adult son were seeking asylum from Canada which they had left after making bizarre claims about plots against them.
The plots were said to involve senior politicians and the use of psychotronic weapons to alter their minds."


Although heresay, this could point to mental health issues?

[NeverBeenNorthOfTheM25]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7054793.ece

"Serge Serykh, 43, his wife, and his stepson, from the former Soviet Union, plunged to their deaths on Sunday morning"

43 years old, I'd say he probably married in 20s, so his son is not likely to be much over 20.

It's ok for him to die then in your view with his parents jumping off the building.

It's not fine by me.

Stop changing the rules. You thought he was a child, now youre saying that we should all be distraught because he was in his 20's ...... well sorry but by the time you are in your 20's you are clearly responsible for your own actions.

The difference between a man OVER the age of 20 throwing himself off a building and a 5 year old is quite distinct wouldnt you agree?

I wouldnt mind arguing the toss if you just admitted you completely got it wrong because you made assumptions.

[sunnysan]

This case

Its a tragedy, but for once I dont really think the UK Border Agency is to blame.

IMHO the debate about the morality of the asylum system is separate and this guy killed himself and his family because he was a nutcase.

In fairness, what was the UKBA supposed to do? Grant them asylum(Benefits, housing etc) because the guy thought the Canadians where out to get him?

My only question to the UKBA is why these guys where even allowed to stay here so long? Clearly their asylum claim was bullsh1t.

So in essence, the Canadians grant the guy asylum, he comes over here and tops himself and takes his family with him, and the UKBA gets the blame? Come on.

[NeverBeenNorthOfTheM25]

Like I said, a few less nutters taking up valuable oxygen cant be a bad thing.

[minestrone]

It's a tragedy when family kills themselves by jumping off an effing huge tower block WITH THEIR SON.

One death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic

Who said that?

[AtW]

Stop changing the rules. You thought he was a child, now youre saying that we should all be distraught because he was in his 20's

For parents he is still a child even if he is 80. In my view that fact that he is 21 does not change the situation one bit.

I guess I am just not a selfish **** who'd need his own family to jump out of window to appreciate that tragedy of this terrible situation.

[Paddy]

Asylum is not just given for political reasons, it can be give if the person is in fear of his or her life, or rape by criminals.

Most Russian asylum seekers are not from Russia but from Latvia and Estonia. When these countries became independent they did not give passports to Russian speakers hence there are thousands (if not millions) of stateless Russians without passports and they are forbidden to work in their own country. (There are seven million Russian speakers in the EU) In theory these countries should not have been admitted to the EU but a blind eye was turned to their practice. The ridiculous situation is that the UK is accepting refugees from these two EU countries but the UK does not protest in the European parliament about the illegal way these two countries treats Russian speakers.

[AtW]

The ridiculous situation is that the UK is accepting refugees from these two EU countries but the UK does not protest in the European parliament about the illegal way these two countries treats Russian speakers.

Do you know how many refugees come from those countries compared to others? I'd be surprised if they are in top 10.

Most of people you describe got now EU passports and travel freely - they don't need asylum bollox and they certainly would prefer EU passport to Russian passport even though many hold both.