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Guardian Poll - Tory Lead Down to 7%

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    #31
    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    If Brown wins a majority, he'll stay for the full term, and imagine what further damage he would do in another five years.
    No he won't. His party will get rid of him.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
      Until Gordon came along it was exclusively Conservative Chancellors with form for creating unsustainable booms.
      Boom might be unsustainable in that it ends, but debt created by labour for their "boom" will outlast many other possible booms of the future.

      So, my question is - did any of the former Conservative Govts ended up with doubling of the national debt in this country, plus personal debt on top?

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        #33
        Originally posted by s2budd View Post
        Just think back to prior to 1979 and how Mrs T was seen. She was not seen as a radical. The economic circumstances forced the policies and the various experiments with the economy in order to get it back on track.
        She was seen as radical, her policies (as I've said before, she was the puppet, Sir Keith Joseph was the puppet master) were a radical departure from the old Tories such as Sir Edward Heath.

        She wouldn't have stayed in power either if she hadn't won the Falklands War, the early eighties were extremely painful.

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          #34
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          So, my question is - did any of the former Conservative Govts ended up with doubling of the national debt in this country, plus personal debt on top?
          Winston Churchill in 1940 - 1945? Those were quite exceptional circumstances though.

          The levels of personal debt are new.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
            Winston Churchill in 1940 - 1945? Those were quite exceptional circumstances though.


            Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill

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              #36
              Originally posted by AtW View Post


              Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill
              What does Russian school history teach about Churchill?

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                #37
                Looks to me like Cameron is going out of his way to lose this election.

                Look to America and see how there is a grass roots populist right-wing movement called the Tea Party taking shape, ready to reshape American politics, with Sarah Palin emerging a leader in their movement.

                They're people who are fed up with increasing tax + spend, immigration out of control, increasing socialism, Christian values ignored, bailouts for some but not others... will there be a similar uprising of the right in Britain?

                As clearly the Conservative party don't provide a traditional Conservative platform anymore.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                  What does Russian school history teach about Churchill?
                  It teaches how to respectfully address the Great Leader with his full name etc

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    It teaches how to respectfully address the Great Leader with his full name etc
                    Does Russian history provide a full and fair treatment of figures and wartime events, specifically regarding the Rt Hon. Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, FRS, PC?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                      Does Russian history provide a full and fair treatment of figures and wartime events, specifically regarding the Rt Hon. Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, FRS, PC?
                      Yes.

                      And if you believe that I'll tell you another one...

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