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Guardian Poll - Tory Lead Down to 7%

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    #21
    Originally posted by Lockhouse View Post
    I'm voting UKIP and hoping it splits the Tory vote. As it stands I can't tell the difference between any of the three major parties. 5 years of Brown presiding over a disaster and then being forcibly removed is better than a wet Tory Government that thinks it too has a mandate to sell us into Euro slavery.
    Don't worry the Tories have already been to see the Boss.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...overnment.html

    President Barroso told Ken everythings going to be just fine.....
    Last edited by Flashman; 23 February 2010, 19:32.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Lockhouse View Post
      I'm voting UKIP and hoping it splits the Tory vote. As it stands I can't tell the difference between any of the three major parties. 5 years of Brown presiding over a disaster and then being forcibly removed is better than a wet Tory Government that thinks it too has a mandate to sell us into Euro slavery.
      Just think back to prior to 1979 and how Mrs T was seen. She was not seen as a radical. The economic circumstances forced the policies and the various experiments with the economy in order to get it back on track.

      History appears to be repeating itself.
      I think that the new Tory government will be just as radical - they'll have to be.
      Last edited by s2budd; 23 February 2010, 19:40.

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        #23
        Originally posted by s2budd View Post
        Just think back to prior to 1979 and how Mrs T was seen. She was not seen as a radical. The economic circumstances forced the policies and the various experiments with the economy in order to get it back on track.

        History appears to be repeating itself.
        I think that the new Tory government will be just as radical - they'll have to be.
        When did the first signs of radicalism appear?

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          #24
          Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
          When did the first signs of radicalism appear?
          On 5th May 1979 at about tea time when it was discovered that they was no money for chocolate digestives.

          As soon as she got in. She in effect made the recession much worse in the shorter term for businesses and individuals in order to lower inflation.

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            #25
            Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
            I'm not surprised considering that Cameron has sold out all the common sense tory policies in his attempt to mimick New Labour.

            What will Cameron do about the EU? Immigration? High taxes? Benefit culture? Yob culture? Islamic terrorism? Promotion of homosexuality to children?

            that's right- more of the same.
            My view exactly and that's why I will not vote Tory despite me hating McBroon with a vengeance.
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              #26
              Originally posted by s2budd View Post
              Just think back to prior to 1979 and how Mrs T was seen. She was not seen as a radical. The economic circumstances forced the policies and the various experiments with the economy in order to get it back on track.

              History appears to be repeating itself.
              I think that the new Tory government will be just as radical - they'll have to be.
              Rubbish, I'm certainly not Mrs T's biggest fan, but Cameron isn't fit to lick her boots.
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                #27
                Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
                Rubbish, I'm certainly not Mrs T's biggest fan, but Cameron isn't fit to lick her boots.
                Aye.
                How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
                  Rubbish, I'm certainly not Mrs T's biggest fan, but Cameron isn't fit to lick her boots.
                  I think the problem is that the Tories chose Dave as the answer to Blair. There again, they couldn't choose one of the big beasts (Clarke, Heseltine or even Portillo) as they would have split the party.
                  From my point of view the biggest failing is having Dave's chum George as the prospective Chancellor. If he had put someone with gravitas in that role (Hague? Clarke?) a lot of people would feel comfortable in voting Conservative (perhaps). It doesn't help that they've wobbled several times in recent weeks over policy - if they're doing that now prior to the election proper, what they going to do once in power and really under pressure?
                  Grrr, it's just too depressing to think about isn't it? And if Gordo manages to hold on in a minority government...
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MrMark View Post
                    And if Gordo manages to hold on in a minority government...
                    That is the best thing that could happen to the country.
                    How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MrMark View Post
                      Correction, it was the Conservative Govt of 70-74, specifically the Barber boom, that knocked the UK economy out of joint. People often make this mistake, and assume the power cuts and 3-day week of the 70s took place under Labour. They didn't, it was under the Conservatives. Still, Mr Brown's done his best to take Mr Barber's position as the biggest wrecker of GB Ltd.
                      I don't think that you can completely disregard the effect of the oil price shock but overall I agree your point.

                      Until Gordon came along it was exclusively Conservative Chancellors with form for creating unsustainable booms.

                      Reginald Maudling did it in the early sixties.

                      Anthony Barber did it in the early seventies.

                      Nigel Lawson did it in the late eighties.

                      Not that Labour politicians have had the answers mind you. The alarming thing I have heard recently is that governement debt is not really too high and continuing to spend is the right thing to do in the circumstances.

                      It is all very well listening to economists' and politicians' views on that but the financial market's view could be brutal.

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