Climate change: the true price of the warmists' folly is becoming clear

[AtW]

But how hard would it be to accept and cope with the fact that your plug-holes will only work 80% of the time ?

Very hard - it would reduce my postcount growth on here

[Diver]

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So how many wind turbines do you need to produce the same power output as a nuclear power station?

Depends what the output of the power station is, the long term costs for generation and final decommissioning is far less for a wind farm and 90% of the materials are recyclable unlike nuclear power,

How many birds do nuclear power stations kill as opposed to wind turbines.

Speak to the RSPB, they are fully in support of offshore wind farms

How long will those wind turbines last before falling apart?

20-25 years and the materials are recyclable and the zone will be repowered with new turbines

You still expect me to believe that wind turbines are the green option...

far greener than any other workable solution

[AtW]

I think I get it.

EternalOptimist advocates change from 60 Hz of power standard so that it's either 20% higher or greater. Either that or it's the volts thingy, down to 120 Volts

[EternalOptimist]

Lots of UPS required?

Lots of little petrol generators?

CHP would be a much better idea, but when has that ever counted for anything?

Right, now you are thinking like a proper little basker.

so, would it work ?

[shaunbhoy]

Could some clever forker not design one of those wave driven machines and mount an array of wind-turbines on top of it that also helps prevent coastal erosion? That would kill 3 birds with one stone surely?

[AtW]

That would kill 3 birds with one stone surely?

There will be plenty of birds killed by vanilla turbines...

[Diver]

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As someone who is picking up business to supply engineers to connect offshore windfarms to the grid then you may like to consider:

1. wind turbines do not work when there is no wind and would not have been able to supply during this recent cold snap.

As someone who is training some of these engineer in wind farm technology and methodology I would like you to consider the following:

a) The offshore developments are in areas of consistent wind, they do work in cold snaps, they are generating power in areas of the world where the temperatures are far lower than we get in the UK

2. wind turbines are made of bits of machinery by multiple manufacturers and they are incredibly unreliable and difficult to maintain.

b) this was true of the 1st generation turbines, the new generation turbines are far more reliable, the records from already existing wind turbine operators (Capital Grant Records/Reports) show far greater reliability and cost effective generation than initially anticipated for even the older turbines.

3. The cost of wind turbines is much higher than proper power stations.

c) Wrong! the long term O&M costs and recyclability coupled with generation costs, offset the initial installation costs by a wide margin

and this is the general view from experts in all sectors of the energy industry.

d) this is the view of the experts in Oil production and supply who want money to be invested in Bio fuels development.

[AtW]

Diver, you should be advocating underwater current turbines not wind ones

[Diver]

Diver, you should be advocating underwater current turbines not wind ones

I do, The technology still needs a lot of work though, as the best options are in deeper water and we are developing new technology to meet the demands of O&M. Maintenance of the systems is easy for shallow water, but proposed locations are tending toward deeper water due to navigation issues.

[AtW]

I do, The technology still needs a lot of work though, as the best options are in deeper water and we are developing new technology to meet the demands of O&M. Maintenance of the systems is easy for shallow water, but proposed locations are tending toward deeper water due to navigation issues.

You mean one does not want submarines bump into wind turbines