Is IT dead in this country

[Fred Bloggs]

Regrettably, in real world engineering the emphasis now to become a CEng is firmly on management type rather than technical skill sets. (Check it out in UKSPEC if you're interested).

Unfortunately, every major project I have ever been on has been fu**ed up to a greater or lesser extent by the project management whether they were engineers or not. Sad but true. I avoid the politics and cr*p that goes with project engineering and management as far as possible, I prefer to stick with the techy stuff. Engineering is probably 10 years behind where IT is in terms of off shoring to Asia but it is going on, mostly in engineering design (CAD) for now.

[minestrone]

Regrettably, in real world engineering the emphasis now to become a CEng is firmly on management type rather than technical skill sets. (Check it out in UKSPEC if you're interested).

Unfortunately, every major project I have ever been on has been fu**ed up to a greater or lesser extent by the project management whether they were engineers or not. Sad but true. I avoid the politics and cr*p that goes with project engineering and management as far as possible, I prefer to stick with the techy stuff. Engineering is probably 10 years behind where IT is in terms of off shoring to Asia but it is going on, mostly in engineering design (CAD) for now.

Are you a CEng?

[Fred Bloggs]

Are you a CEng?

Yes, old school though, time served apprentice etc...

[minestrone]

Yes, old school though, time served apprentice etc...

Who certified you?

[swamp]

And your experience of "(real world) engineering" is?

And your assumptions (about swamp) are based on?

I am certainly no expert on the English language but I do know that an assumption cannot be made in a question.

Let swamp answer the question.

I'd be delighted to answer your question. But first I would point out that Zippy's question was perfectly valid and concerned the basis of your assumptions (about me). So you could be correct, in so far as to say you are not an expert on the English Language.

I myself am also not an expert, in my case in (real world) engineering, since my experience in this is nil.

Now you just need to answer Zippy's question and we can get back on track.

[Fred Bloggs]

Who certified you?

IEE via the old "mature candidate" route, back when it went all multi discipline and then became the IET. I work as a process engineer, have done for many years.

[minestrone]

I'd be delighted to answer your question. But first I would point out that Zippy's question was perfectly valid and concerned the basis of your assumptions (about me). So you could be correct, in so far as to say you are not an expert on the English Language.

I myself am also not an expert, in my case in (real world) engineering, since my experience in this is nil.

Now you just need to answer Zippy's question and we can get back on track.

You made a referential comparison, comparing A against B yet have no understanding of A.

[minestrone]

IEE via the old "mature candidate" route, back when it went all multi discipline and then became the IET. I work as a process engineer, have done for many years.

Are they registered with the Engineering Council?

[Fred Bloggs]

Are they registered with the Engineering Council?

Yes, that's the only way you can be CEng in the UK.

[minestrone]

Yes, that's the only way you can be CEng in the UK.

Prove it.