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Originally posted by moorfield View PostDon't start yawning. It's catching.
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I think your earlier views on religion were right. We need society based on rational assessements of what works and religious belief is only an impediment, it is a waste of the human intellect.
To an extent, religions start out as practical, they are formalisation of working rules for the tribe but they get locked into history and twisted to suit the purposes of the rulers. For example, a subordinate role of women made perfect sense in a more brutal world where physical prowess was of far greater importance, it doesn't anymore.
It is a mistake to think that only religion gives people a sense of purpose. Both China and Japan show that strong secular cultural traditions, without religious foundation, work very well.
On bankers, I find yet again that one of the most sensible arguments was in The Gaurdian, I must be going senile.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-budget-reportLast edited by xoggoth; 11 December 2009, 23:53.bloggoth
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostIt is a mistake to think that only religion gives people a sense of purpose. Both China and Japan show that strong secular cultural traditions, without religious foundation, work very well.
Their religion is part of their way of life without becoming the obstructive media that westernised religion has become if one lets it.
Christianity for some will often dictate the way they live and react (ref: catholicism, and for the record I have seen that in action in Ireland, in the way the Bishops have manipulated certain political votes via the pulpit in the past)
For may eastern religions, as a friend once said to me (he is Hindu) these are guidelines but our path is not dictated to us.Comment
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostTo an extent, religions start out as practical, they are formalisation of working rules for the tribe but they get locked into history and twisted to suit the purposes of the rulers. For example, a subordinate role of women made perfect sense in a more brutal world where physical prowess was of far greater importance, it doesn't anymore.
The example that I like to give for the same idea is that wearing clothes that completely cover the skin is a very good idea if you live in a country where the sun shines all day every day.Comment
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