Atheism R.I.P.

[wobbegong]

I refer my learned collegues to the answer I gave earlier.

[TiroFijo]

So many religions, well they can't all be right and would a God be the author of such confusion? I would doubt it, so it would appear to be man made.

Think of it, say you want to join one, well you are faced with some overwhelming choices. Do you go with Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Christian and that's just some of the main ones. Even after picking one, say Christian, you have then got to pick among probably 100's of religions that come under Christianity with each one not ashamed to tell you that their's is the only 'true' one and that the rest are a perversion of the truth.

People are really just a product of their environment and culture which includes things like religion, dress, food tastes and n and on.

One born again told me that some religions beleive in crazy things, but is it any more crazier than believing that Jesus was born from a virgin or that Noah gathered two of everything and put them in a boat no bigger than than a couple of large houses. Even God can't decide who's side he's on as almost every war that has been fought the leaders have claimed he was on theirs!

[NotAllThere]

I love these religious arguments. I get to pick holes in believers and non-believers arguments.

The day Atheism died was the day Douglas Adams died. Militant atheism with a sense of humour.

Dawkins should learn from him.

[NotAllThere]

... Even God can't decide who's side he's on as almost every war that has been fought the leaders have claimed he was on theirs!

How does what people claim affect what god decides?

IIRC from sunday school, Joshua was about to go into battle and he saw this bloke. "Whose side are you on", he asked. The bloke answered "Neither - I am commander of the army of God". It's not whether God is on your side - it's whether your on his.

[sasguru]

Jeez. And someone had the cheek to say my "German army vs. British army" thread was pointless.

[nomadd]

Why we are born to believe in God: It's wired into the brain, says psychologist

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0QRSJN1tS



Conclusion: no one is born an atheist. One needs to be indoctrinated into atheism. We are born believers. Praise God. Bible taught us this 2000 years ago:-

St Paul, 2000 years ago:
For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. (Romans 12:3 NKJV)

Psychologists, today:
Humans are programmed to believe in God because it gives them a better chance of survival, researchers claim.

Seems strange, then, that the entire Hominid line (that's us) has survived quite happily for 5-7 million years, whilst most of the world's religions only popped up in the last 1 or 2 thousand. In other words, we've been doing pretty well for 99% of our existence without religion.

Still, religion does has one claim to fame: It's been responsible for more death, destruction, rape, racism, torture, genocide (etc., etc.) than any other of man's endevours. And that persecution continues to be the case to this very day : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8241894.stm

Nomadd (devoted Atheist, surviving quite happily "without any artificial means of support". )

[NotAllThere]

Seems strange, then, that the entire Hominid line (that's us) has survived quite happily for 5-7 million years, whilst most of the world's religions only popped up in the last 1 or 2 thousand. In other words, we've been doing pretty well for 99% of our existence without religion.

Totally unsubstantiated bollocks. What evidence there is clearly points to humans enjoying religion/superstition/ritual for many many thousands of years, possibly hundreds of thousands. It's as we've evolved the capacity for story telling that we were able to make tentative explanations of the big wide scary world. And that ability probably goes back a few million years.

Still, religion does has one claim to fame: It's been responsible for more death, destruction, rape, racism, torture, genocide (etc., etc.) than any other of man's endevours. And that persecution continues to be the case to this very day : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8241894.stm

Old chestnut of the week award goes to Nomadd.

Stalin and Mao, Pol Pot etc. managed all these things one quite a large scale without religion's help. Although Mao set up a religion with himself as god.

Some religious people do some very bad things and some atheists display amazing moral courage and do some very good things.

[EternalOptimist]

what interests me about this is that if we are hard-wired to believe in a supernatural God like spiritual deity, how come I am an atheist.
where do all the atheists come from ? are we missing something that should be there ?

[sasguru]

I love these religious arguments. I get to pick holes in believers and non-believers arguments.

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Yes I've noticed that, you fence-sitter

Personally I think it's because your head and your heart are at war.

[Sysman]

cobblers

Would that be:

"Cobblers to the Pope"?

or

"Cobblers to the Archbishop of Canterbury"?