McKinnon to be extradited

[RichardCranium]

Thank you matey!

[AtW]

I was simply returning the point to AtW's claim that a mental condition can not be used to explain a criminal act.

Are you a retard (in a medical sense)?

I said HIS mental condition (autism) can not be used to completely absolve him from responsibility for the act.

There is a long legal practice that SOME mental conditions (insanity) can indeed do that, but in this case the alternative punishment often is putting that person into mental institution.

In some cases like above if person did not realise what he knew may even result in lack of conviction at all, however McKinnon's condition is nowhere near insanity or anything like this.

Hell, few millions of UK citizens got autism apparently.

[TheFaQQer]

What I say is that his behavior that I saw in interview and other stuff seems at odds with what wikipedia tells me in one line that autism means.

FTFY, Dr AtW.

[TheFaQQer]

That's fine mate - I say he should take his arguements to USA court where he'd be able to present expert opinion from his doctor under oath, and prosecution will bring their own experts, he is actually trying to avoid this very actively, my guess is that among other things his medical arguement won't hold much water in court.

Let's say he killed someone in this country, would he then be allowed to get away with it just because he has autism? Maybe he could argue a reduction in sentence, something that I have no doubt he could have done in USA if he went there, pleaded guilty, brought up this medical "evidence", he'd be home long time ago, though with criminal conviction, he wanted to get away with it though, which is precisely why he should now be extradited.

Sorry, I didn't realise that it was a murder charge he was up on.

[AtW]

FTFY, Dr AtW.

If you want to get it fixed to correct version then go and literally fix it. I don't believe everything I read in Wikipedia, but that definition seems to be pretty close to what others are saying, if it is incorrect then please provide a better link to support your view.

If you don't have it then FAQ ***, seriously!

[AtW]

Sorry, I didn't realise that it was a murder charge he was up on.

He has been charged with criminal actions, it is not murder charge, but criminal nevertheless.

[centurian]

I was simply returning the point to AtW's claim that a mental condition can not be used to explain a criminal act.

Then you can have that point

McKinnon is fully entitled to argue the case that his condition explains his actions. The jury can decide to acquit him on that basis, and even if convicted, a judge might take that into account when sentancing.

But I think his supporters are placing far too much emphasis on it - suggesting he should basically get a free pass.

[TheFaQQer]

In the end it does not alter situation one bit - if he has got medical condition then he should be able to reduce his sentence, maybe not in USA, in which case he should have considered that way before he did what he did, in fact it is important to extradite him now with maximum publicity so that it hopefully will prevent others from getting into such problems. And if not then fine - they'd have nobody to blame but themselves.

Isn't that the whole point, though? His illness meant that he could not consider beforehand anything that he allegedly did.

[AtW]

But I think his supporters are placing far too much emphasis on it - suggesting he should basically get a free pass.

Without independent public scrutiny of his defence - doctors can misdiagnose cancer one way or another, who can be certain his doctor got his condition right in the first place?

[TheFaQQer]

It's simple really - bring him to court, listen to all sides, make decision. It's not like he is being extradited to backwards country with no indepdenent justice system. He also does not face death penalty, as I said - he should have been on the first plane out as soon as he publicly admitted he committed one or more of the crimes he is accused of.

I don't know if he gets finally extradited - but if it happens, then 99% he'd plead guilty there very quickly.

Some would consider that facing a possible sentence of 70 years would equate to a death sentence.