McKinnon to be extradited

[AtW]

Isn't that the whole point, though? His illness meant that he could not consider beforehand anything that he allegedly did.

He should put this argument before court which can invite prosecution medical experts who'd testify to support or refuse his own doctor's view.

He is trying to avoid it - he is certainly very well aware that his medical condition, even if true, won't mean jack there, and frankly I doubt it would have meant much in UK courts: he just knows he can't really be prosecuted here because he committed crime in the USA (via network), and even if he did he'd get very lax sentence here.

[RichardCranium]

Sorry, I didn't realise that it was a murder charge he was up on.

You'd think he was, the way the Americans were ranting about the damage he supposedly caused and the threat they claim he was.

At one stage, when we were all wondering what else was going to be revealed about what the Americans had been up to with the Guantanimo Bay people, it was looking as though he were up for the death penalty for terrorism.

[minestrone]

Are you a retard (in a medical sense)?

I said HIS mental condition (autism) can not be used to completely absolve him from responsibility for the act.

There is a long legal practice that SOME mental conditions (insanity) can indeed do that, but in this case the alternative punishment often is putting that person into mental institution.

In some cases like above if person did not realise what he knew may even result in lack of conviction at all, however McKinnon's condition is nowhere near insanity or anything like this.

Hell, few millions of UK citizens got autism apparently.

I'm not going to dish out insults but you may be aware that you do come from a country with shocking legal rights issues. I suppose we should be thankful that we do have people speaking up for this chap, we are allowed to do that here.

[TheFaQQer]

Well, yes alleged doctor, have you seen him publicly making such statement? All I've heard is that his doctor (GP?) diagnosed him with autism, so what if he made mistake? This whole "autism" is far harder to be certain about than real serious mental illnesses.

The fact that you don't consider autism to be a real serious mental illness shows what an ignorant **** you are.

[AtW]

Some would consider that facing a possible sentence of 70 years would equate to a death sentence.

His lawyer publicly stated to the Law Lords that he was initially standing to go down for 6-7 years, if he pleaded guilty he'd go down for 33-42 months.

[AtW]

I'm not going to dish out insults but you may be aware that you do come from a country with shocking legal rights issues. I suppose we should be thankful that we do have people speaking up for this chap, we are allowed to do that here.

Oh that's fine by me - I like people speaking up against Govt or to support some cause, it is a pity that McKinnon is the wrong cause and this would result in some RIGHT cause to fight exradition not to be supported in the future. For this cynical usage he deserves to go down in jail for life as his CURRENT actions WOULD destroy some one else's life.

[minestrone]

The fact that you don't consider autism to be a real serious mental illness shows what an ignorant **** you are.

WHS

[TheFaQQer]

Doctors make mistakes, in this case this "condition" is not black and white - probability of mistake increases especially when dealing with presumably introvert type like he was before.

Say I was diagnosed with astma by very good doctors. They were correct, only I managed to beat it off some years later, but it remained on my file and technically I still say I had astma.

Who can say whether his condition was present at the time and gone now? At the very least new medical assessment is in order, you can't rely on single opinion of a local doctor.



So what if they are - does this "condition" in any way diminish their responsibility insofar criminal acts are concerned? If they beat you up to death with a chess board, then would they walk free after it?

From personal experience, I can tell you that getting someone diagnosed as being autistic is f***ing hard.

[AtW]

The fact that you don't consider autism to be a real serious mental illness shows what an ignorant **** you are.

Well, according to guru I have autism. I don't know, maybe I do? If so, I can't see how having it would in any way eliminate my responsibility for my actions, maybe reduce it in some case, but I certainly don't think so, and in any case it is for the court to decide.

[TheFaQQer]

An alcholic (alcholism is a medical disorder) who gets drunk and kills someone still has to pay for their actions. They might be charged with manslaugher instead of murder, but it's highly unlikely they will get away with it based upon their condition.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8370237.stm