McKinnon to be extradited

[AtW]

Ain't that the truth.

It is true and I am not afraid to admit it, in this particular case I am not acting as a doctor, I certainly would not go to court under oath to diagnose him, but I'd like him to be in court so that experts apart from his alleged doctor speak out publicly and under oath on this condition.

In any case this condition, even if present, does not absolve him from responsibility - maybe reduced sentence is in order if he cooperates and pleads guilty, something he refused to do.

Mark my words - if he ends up being extradited to USA he will plead guilty very quickly.

[minestrone]

It is true and I am not afraid to admit it, in this particular case I am not acting as a doctor, I certainly would not go to court under oath to diagnose him, but I'd like him to be in court so that experts apart from his alleged doctor speak out publicly and under oath on this condition.

In any case this condition, even if present, does not absolve him from responsibility - maybe reduced sentence is in order if he cooperates and pleads guilty, something he refused to do.

Mark my words - if he ends up being extradited to USA he will plead guilty very quickly.

'Alleged doctor' is it now. Do you think this case has went as far as it has with the alleged word of a doctor under the hypocrathic oath? You are calling into question the word of a UK doctor (which you have never met) and his diagnosis of a patient you have never met.

[AtW]

'Alleged doctor' is it now. Do you think this case has went as far as it has with the alleged word of a doctor under the hypocrathic oath? You are calling into question the word of a UK doctor (which you have never met) and his diagnosis of a patient you have never met.

Well, yes alleged doctor, have you seen him publicly making such statement? All I've heard is that his doctor (GP?) diagnosed him with autism, so what if he made mistake? This whole "autism" is far harder to be certain about than real serious mental illnesses.

That's beyond point anyway - you whine about me having an opinion on his alleged medical condition, where as you make your own on the basis of his own words - words of a person who admitted to committing criminal acts and he is the most interested party to get away with his crime, IMO - only independent court appoints doctors should make any judgment on his condition, and in any case he should be in court for that - something he is actively trying to avoid.

[AtW]

has with the alleged word of a doctor under the hypocrathic oath? You are calling into question the word of a UK doctor (which you have never met) and his diagnosis of a patient you have never met.

Hippocratic Oath is not the same thing as giving evidence under oath in court.

I think Nu Liebor actually made a change so that no longer doctors in the UK take it - pretty sure I've seen something like this happening 5+ years ago.

[minestrone]

Well, yes alleged doctor, have you seen him publicly making such statement? All I've heard is that his doctor (GP?) diagnosed him with autism, so what if he made mistake? This whole "autism" is far harder to be certain about than real serious mental illnesses.

That's beyond point anyway - you whine about me having an opinion on his alleged medical condition, where as you make your own on the basis of his own words - words of a person who admitted to committing criminal acts and he is the most interested party to get away with his crime, IMO - only independent court appoints doctors should make any judgment on his condition, and in any case he should be in court for that - something he is actively trying to avoid.

The person who made the diagnosis is a doctor, nothing alleged about it. He/She will be registered and will have spent 8 years training. The fact that you disbelieve that diagnosis from a trained medical professional is proof that you opinions are invalid on this matter.

I know 2 people diagnosed with aspergers and they are not social misfits, they are slightly obsessive and one plays chess for the country at the age of 16.

[AtW]

The person who made the diagnosis is a doctor, nothing alleged about it. He/She will be registered and will have spent 8 years training. The fact that you disbelieve that diagnosis from a trained medical professional is proof that you opinions are invalid on this matter.

Doctors make mistakes, in this case this "condition" is not black and white - probability of mistake increases especially when dealing with presumably introvert type like he was before.

Say I was diagnosed with astma by very good doctors. They were correct, only I managed to beat it off some years later, but it remained on my file and technically I still say I had astma.

Who can say whether his condition was present at the time and gone now? At the very least new medical assessment is in order, you can't rely on single opinion of a local doctor.

I know 2 people diagnosed with aspergers and they are not social misfits, they are slightly obsessive and one plays chess for the country at the age of 16.

So what if they are - does this "condition" in any way diminish their responsibility insofar criminal acts are concerned? If they beat you up to death with a chess board, then would they walk free after it?

[minestrone]

Hippocratic Oath is not the same thing as giving evidence under oath in court.

I think Nu Liebor actually made a change so that no longer doctors in the UK take it - pretty sure I've seen something like this happening 5+ years ago.

Every doctor must take it, you get dragged into a wee room before you get your degree and have to say it. Else you do not get your title.

[AtW]

Every doctor must take it, you get dragged into a wee room before you get your degree and have to say it. Else you do not get your title.

Did Mr Shipman take it?

Did taking that oath prevented countless of doctors make mistake in their diagnosis?

If his believe in his doctor's diagnosis is so high he should surrender himself to USA authorities and bring his medical file with him.

[PM-Junkie]

Every doctor must take it, you get dragged into a wee room before you get your degree and have to say it. Else you do not get your title.

Pardon me for interrupting....but can I just compliment you on your patience? To continue with someone who clearly hasn't the first clue what he is talking about without losing your rag is very impressive....

[AtW]

Pardon me for interrupting....but can I just compliment you on your patience? To continue with someone who clearly hasn't the first clue what he is talking about without losing your rag is very impressive....

Thank you matey!