85 Sharia courts in the UK

[lilelvis2000]

I would use the Human Rights Act ? That is indeed bizarre, as I thought the HRA is something that I and every law abiding citizen had to conform to. Crazy Booby !!

You obviously don't know anything about the HRA.

[Cyberman]

You probably do....how often do to speed, drop litter, lie on your income tax return?

I never drop litter or lie on my tax return. Speeding ?..... well that is different !!

[sasguru]

I never drop litter or lie on my tax return. Speeding ?..... well that is different !!

What about making your curtains more crusty? You do plenty of that. Don't worry it's allowed under Sharia Law.

[BlackenedBiker]

What about making your curtains more crusty? You do plenty of that. Don't worry it's allowed under Sharia Law.

WE are on fire sadgrunt

Mod that

[xoggoth]

The problem with Cyberman's "drivel" is that (apart from a missing non typo in para 3) it isn't, none of it.

It is complete nonsense to compare Shariah courts with arbitration. If you check the latter you will find that a major pillar of it, within the limits of UK law obviously, is that judgement is given by an IMPARTIAL third person.

Impartiality within UK law cannot apply to Shariah courts where there are built in assumptions over issues like marriage, custody of children or inheritance which are totally at odds with British laws and ethics.

You may as well hand arbitration on a boundary dispute to one of the neighbour's relatives and call that fair and open.

[original PM]

hmm may as well chuck in my uninformed 2 pence worth

I have no problems with people worshipping whatever they want - as long as it does not affect another person in any way shape or form.

And thats the problem - the teachings of Islam seem to point towards certain fundamental breaches of human rights - and that is just out of order.

also does any other religion have an equivalent of a Jihad?

I know the Christians had the crusades but that was like 800 years ago

[The Lone Gunman]

The problem with Cyberman's "drivel" is that (apart from a missing non typo in para 3) it isn't, none of it.

It is complete nonsense to compare Shariah courts with arbitration. If you check the latter you will find that a major pillar of it, within the limits of UK law obviously, is that judgement is given by an IMPARTIAL third person.

Impartiality within UK law cannot apply to Shariah courts where there are built in assumptions over issues like marriage, custody of children or inheritance which are totally at odds with British laws and ethics.

You may as well hand arbitration on a boundary dispute to one of the neighbour's relatives and call that fair and open.

That is twisting it somewhat.
Any Arbitration service basically acts as a referee in a dispute. They are asked to arbitrate either because they are impartial or because they are experts.
Muslims just want their experts to rule acording to their religious beliefs. As far as the two parties are concerned the Imam is impartial.

It is perfectly OK for a married couple to go to a lawyer to settle a divorce. They can ask the lawyer to write up an greement that they will bothe stick to. That agreement ONLY has to be valid under UK law. It can be as biased as you like as long as it is legal.

Believe it or not there are some Muslim women who believe in the Koran over human rights laws. These women actualy find it offensive that their religious beliefs can be discarded or ignored by a local court. They want to live according to Islam. A sharia court agreement allows them to do this.

[FSM with Cheddar]

also does any other religion have an equivalent of a Jihad?

I know the Christians had the crusades but that was like 800 years ago

Exactly, the only difference between the two religions is 800 years.

Islam needs to modernise like the Christians have done, and are still doing.

[lilelvis2000]

Exactly, the only difference between the two religions is 800 years.

Islam needs to modernise like the Christians have done, and are still doing.

The only think happening with Christians is they are leaving the relegion. The evangelicals are taking up the fight still. Last week they were out and about around here telling everyone they are going to hell.

[NotAllThere]

...telling everyone they are going to hell.

Hey man - they're just sharing the good news. What I want to know is - if that's the good news, what's the bad news.