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Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Postbut the fact that you see it as controlling "our own economy" is indicative of the "little Englander though you mean UK" mentality.
That is the entire problem with Europe and the Euro. The whole thing is just about nation states trying to mould the whole thing to best suit them and not to use it to unite all member nations.
It can not work how they (European institutions representatives and supporters) present it to us (European citizens) unless all the Nation states commit to being one unit under one government with one economy.
They and we need to decide which way we are going. Total unification in which case we give up national identities in all but name and tradition or falling back to being a common market with agreed trading rules. This half arsed psuedo financial and political alignment is never going to work.
You people come on here and spit at the large banks being so big (quite rightly so) that no one can control them yet you openly support the homogonisation of the population of Europe under a single undemocratic government and currency.
People like having an identity, they like the feeling of belonging to groups, families and institutions. If you people have no friends and want to live in faceless communities then buzz off and live in Luxembourg and leave the rest of us to be different.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhy on earth do we want to be united? united in what? everyone accross the whole of Europe shops at Tesco? everyone speaks the same language? everyone wanders around with an "I am a Eurodrone badge" to who's benefit apart from Adolf Hiler would such "herding" of large swathes of our population be?
You people come on here and spit at the large banks being so big (quite rightly so) that no one can control them yet you openly support the homogonisation of the population of Europe under a single undemocratic government and currency.
People like having an identity, they like the feeling of belonging to groups, families and institutions. If you people have no friends and want to live in faceless communities then buzz off and live in Luxembourg and leave the rest of us to be different.
Wasn't LG was playing devil's advocate there?Comment
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Originally posted by Le Rosbif View PostMy apologies if this has already been discussed before.
I am a newby after all
What are your position regarding the UK joining the European currency?
What with the the ludicrous fact that they change parliaments every 6 months between Brussels and Strasbourg simply to sooth the humoungus French ego at a cost of God-knows how many millions of euros per year and that MEPs make our lot look like a bunch of Scrooges on the expense front, I've never been less keen on the Euro ideal than I am now..."I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
- Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhy on earth do we want to be united? united in what? everyone accross the whole of Europe shops at Tesco? everyone speaks the same language? everyone wanders around with an "I am a Eurodrone badge" to who's benefit apart from Adolf Hiler would such "herding" of large swathes of our population be?
You people come on here and spit at the large banks being so big (quite rightly so) that no one can control them yet you openly support the homogonisation of the population of Europe under a single undemocratic government and currency.
People like having an identity, they like the feeling of belonging to groups, families and institutions. If you people have no friends and want to live in faceless communities then buzz off and live in Luxembourg and leave the rest of us to be different.
I am not in favour, I am pointing out my opinion.
I believe that the only way Europe and the Euro could work is if everyone gave up their national identities.
I do not believe this will ever happen, certainly not by choice under the current populations mind set.
I also believe that as it is not achievable we should stop wasting money on ever more complex and costly European legislation and get back to a working common market.I am not qualified to give the above advice!
The original point and click interface by
Smith and Wesson.
Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to timeComment
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Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View PostYou misunderstand Dodgy (might be my fault for not being clear).
I am not in favour, I am pointing out my opinion.
I believe that the only way Europe and the Euro could work is if everyone gave up their national identities.
I do not believe this will ever happen, certainly not by choice under the current populations mind set.
I also believe that as it is not achievable we should stop wasting money on ever more complex and costly European legislation and get back to a working common market.Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - EpicurusComment
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Originally posted by Doggy Styles View PostWHS
Wasn't LG was playing devil's advocate there?
In which case I am sure he will be pleaseed to hear that I have stamped his exit visa from luxembourgLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View PostYou misunderstand Dodgy (might be my fault for not being clear).
I am not in favour, I am pointing out my opinion.
I believe that the only way Europe and the Euro could work is if everyone gave up their national identities.
I do not believe this will ever happen, certainly not by choice under the current populations mind set.
I also believe that as it is not achievable we should stop wasting money on ever more complex and costly European legislation and get back to a working common market.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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