Expensive contractors, take responsibility for your work!

[Mich the Tester]

I work for a IB and we are paying top dollar for specialists. I'm appalled at the lack of balls in all of them.
What I want it for people to have some balls and back up their work with professional like behaviour.

At a bank?

Dream on. Actually I agree with you to a great extent but I've seen the inside of a few banks myself and I think you're hoping for a bit too much.

[Moscow Mule]

I work for a IB and we are paying top dollar for specialists. I'm appalled at the lack of balls in all of them.
What I want it for people to have some balls and back up their work with professional like behaviour.

Well, put what you want from them in the contract and they will price accordingly.

If you're not happy with the standard of work, utilise their warranty clauses.

[snaw]

I work for a IB and we are paying top dollar for specialists.

I call BS.

These days they all enforced pay cuts and scaled back big time on contractors. I know that cause I spent most of my career working for them, and know how tulip rates are now ...

[Moscow Mule]

zakly. they tell you nothing about quality. what tells you something is having the developers in on a friday night. thats committment.

Pay me, I'll be there. You don't get anything for nothing these days.

[PM-Junkie]

At least we've got a tennis player who can get to the quarters of a tennis tournament

hehehehehe...good shot

[The Lone Gunman]

I work for a IB and we are paying top dollar for specialists. I'm appalled at the lack of balls in all of them.
What I want it for people to have some balls and back up their work with professional like behaviour.

But you said yourself that the rate does not include testing. I assume that means beyond unit test.
That is what will be delivered.
If the product passes unit test but does not integrate or work at a system level then there is a design problem, but it is not the consultants fault and nor should the consultant be required to go beyond their contract. I will take a wild guess that somewhere along the way said consultant pointed out the folly in the system to someone who ignored them.

[aussielong]

But you said yourself that the rate does not include testing. I assume that means beyond unit test.
That is what will be delivered.
If the product passes unit test but does not integrate or work at a system level then there is a design problem, but it is not the consultants fault and nor should the consultant be required to go beyond their contract. I will take a wild guess that somewhere along the way said consultant pointed out the folly in the system to someone who ignored them.

Contractors in IBs are not the smartest f****s around. the people who have been thru the grad scheme are usually the rocket scientists - since there are 1000's of people going for those positions - not just a small pool of fifteen years in C++ devs with ATL, STL and options pricing, etc, etc.... contractors are employed for experience and specialist knowledge.

I expect better. Higher standard.

No bullsh1t here. Why would i BS? do you think i could be bothered to type this much sh1t unless i was genuinely urked!!!!!

[oracleslave]

At least we've got a tennis player who can get to the quarters of a tennis tournament

hehehehehe...good shot

I'm guessing the name Samantha Stosur means little to either of you.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/8540071

[snaw]

Contractors in IBs are not the smartest f****s around. the people who have been thru the grad scheme are usually the rocket scientists - since there are 1000's of people going for those positions - not just a small pool of fifteen years in C++ devs with ATL, STL and options pricing, etc, etc.... contractors are employed for experience and specialist knowledge.

I expect better. Higher standard.

No bulltulip here. Why would i BS? do you think i could be bothered to type this much tulip unless i was genuinely urked!!!!!

Traders maybe, yes.

IT - get a grip, the smart ones all leave at some point and go contracting. They sure as **** don't hang around being permie on tulip money because they've been there since day dot.

[aussielong]

I will take a wild guess that somewhere along the way said consultant pointed out the folly in the system to someone who ignored them.

What mentioned it at the coffee pot? Stand up and deliver the advice, follow it through and be accountable for it. Thats worth top dollar.