Yay, some doom

[Menelaus]

Surely this technique relies on the definition of 'good' and 'bad'. By mixing up identities of each and providing multiple identities for all, the definition of good or bad is shot to pieces as every candidate will be a rough mixture of good and bad. If you get my drift.

We use information theory to determine the probability of good (1-(pBad)) and then gini and Kolmogorov-Smirnov to identify the effectiveness.

It's not idiot-proof, but it's better than chance!

[HairyArsedBloke]

The line from V is brilliant. Unfortunately, with the trigger-happy fcukwits (sorry, police), shouting this at the Houses of Parliament would likely ensure a high velocity injection of lead.

Thomas Jefferson

[conned tractor]

We use information theory to determine the probability of good (1-(pBad)) and then gini and Kolmogorov-Smirnov to identify the effectiveness.

It's not idiot-proof, but it's better than chance!

BBN's, and statistical evaluation --- in your spare time --- super geeky.

How do you determine the threshold of good/bad?

[Mich the Tester]

The line from V is brilliant. Unfortunately, with the trigger-happy fcukwits (sorry, police), shouting this at the Houses of Parliament would likely ensure a high velocity injection of lead.

The line´s much older than the film. I think it was Thomas Jefferson. But V certainly reflects my feelings toward many of the mendacious barstewards in the UK, the rest of Europe and the US who have spent several years destroying our liberty, torturing ´terror´ suspects, illegally detaining people, ending habeas corpus, lying to their respective parliaments, invading other countries on false premises, arresting people for expressing their opinions, sending the police out on the streets to kick tulip out of people and then pretending to be shocked when someone dies, banning the use of cameras to photograph the police (and effectively to collect evidence against the state), etc etc etc

Sorry, but if I were to run through the whole list of crimes committed by western governments in the name of the ´war on terror´ I´d be writing this all day. I´d just say that Tony B Liar, George W Bushmonkey, Gordon Brown, Jacqui Smith, Dick Cheney and the rest of their cronies should be unceremoniously carted off to Nuremberg to be tried for war crimes and high treason.

I am not a political ´radical´. I am a liberalish-conservativish generally law abiding middle class chap who has always voted for parties somewhere in the centre ground. I have only once taken part in a street protest; that was a mass silent protest (not a violent anti-fascist demo) against an extremist right wing party in my home town. I am disgusted at the actions that have been taken in my name. I am also disgusted at the weak willed lily livered ‘opposition’ parties in many European countries who timidly agreed to the invasion of Iraq, the extension of imprisonment without trial, the cooperation with ‘extraordinary rendition’ (English; kidnap) and ‘enhanced interrogation’ (English; torture) and of course the perversion of our language to conceal the real content of the crimes committed.

Oh f##k this rant, it’s a bit crap by my standards. Anyway, V was right, and so was Guy Fawkes.

[Menelaus]

BBN's, and statistical evaluation --- in your spare time --- super geeky.

How do you determine the threshold of good/bad?

I am the Stig of geekery.

Determination of good:bad is based on the dataset - for example, "good" might be (in the case of a medical statistics dataset) "cured" and bad would be "dead" - everything else would be an indeterminant.

Problems with this are obvious:

1. HUGE indeterminant data set meaning that separation statistically is made easier

2. Medical datasets are an easy and obvious good:bad selection issue

[suityou01]

The line´s much older than the film. I think it was Thomas Jefferson. But V certainly reflects my feelings toward many of the mendacious barstewards in the UK, the rest of Europe and the US who have spent several years destroying our liberty, torturing ´terror´ suspects, illegally detaining people, ending habeas corpus, lying to their respective parliaments, invading other countries on false premises, arresting people for expressing their opinions, sending the police out on the streets to kick tulip out of people and then pretending to be shocked when someone dies, banning the use of cameras to photograph the police (and effectively to collect evidence against the state), etc etc etc

Sorry, but if I were to run through the whole list of crimes committed by western governments in the name of the ´war on terror´ I´d be writing this all day. I´d just say that Tony B Liar, George W Bushmonkey, Gordon Brown, Jacqui Smith, Dick Cheney and the rest of their cronies should be unceremoniously carted off to Nuremberg to be tried for war crimes and high treason.

I am not a political ´radical´. I am a liberalish-conservativish generally law abiding middle class chap who has always voted for parties somewhere in the centre ground. I have only once taken part in a street protest; that was a mass silent protest (not a violent anti-fascist demo) against an extremist right wing party in my home town. I am disgusted at the actions that have been taken in my name. I am also disgusted at the weak willed lily livered ‘opposition’ parties in many European countries who timidly agreed to the invasion of Iraq, the extension of imprisonment without trial, the cooperation with ‘extraordinary rendition’ (English; kidnap) and ‘enhanced interrogation’ (English; torture) and of course the perversion of our language to conceal the real content of the crimes committed.

Oh f##k this rant, it’s a bit crap by my standards. Anyway, V was right, and so was Guy Fawkes.

A good rant nonetheless, and as the OP I would say fully in keeping with why I started the thread. The ID cards are currently optional if you are a) A Dullard b) An attention seeking chump c) Can't think of anything better to spend £60 on. The anti terror laws are just accepted. If tomorrow you had to go and register your children for an ID card under the anti terror laws because it was the law, I wonder how many would actually revolt. Not many I suspect.

We are sheeple.

[Menelaus]

A good rant nonetheless, and as the OP I would say fully in keeping with why I started the thread. The ID cards are currently optional if you are a) A Dullard b) An attention seeking chump c) Can't think of anything better to spend £60 on. The anti terror laws are just accepted. If tomorrow you had to go and register your children for an ID card under the anti terror laws because it was the law, I wonder how many would actually revolt. Not many I suspect.

We are sheeple.

As the Gandhi-jii said, be the change you want to see in the world.

[FSM with Cheddar]

Well done MTT

[AlfredJPruffock]

Is it true that prior to getting your ID card ( Ive ordered mines already as Ive heard the price might go up if you leave it too late) you need to show the issuing clerk your stockpile of Tamiflu with the receipt ?

I think ID Cards and the Trident upgrade are neceesary - because you cant be too careful these days.

[Mich the Tester]

A good rant nonetheless, and as the OP I would say fully in keeping with why I started the thread. The ID cards are currently optional if you are a) A Dullard b) An attention seeking chump c) Can't think of anything better to spend £60 on. The anti terror laws are just accepted. If tomorrow you had to go and register your children for an ID card under the anti terror laws because it was the law, I wonder how many would actually revolt. Not many I suspect.

We are sheeple.

The trouble is that you have to know that enough other people will subvert the system simultaneously to have confidence that you won’t be the one brave buy who gets let down by everyone else and caught out. Perhaps our resident mathematician Menelaus could develop a formula to determine precisely how many people you would need to commit to subversion to gain and spread this confidence?