Reply to: Yay, some doom

[Menelaus]

I have great hope in the good people of Ireland, Africa, Iraq and Afghanistan to show a little more gumption than the sheeple of Britain and Western Europe.

They've certainly shown it in the past, casting off the imperialists.

[Mich the Tester]

Well we started in Ireland, shifted to Africa then dropped in to Iraq via Afghanistan - twice. We seem to have pissed off quite a few people(or radical loonies as OGL would have us believe) along the way.

I have great hope in the good people of Ireland, Africa, Iraq and Afghanistan to show a little more gumption than the sheeple of Britain and Western Europe.

[Zippy]

State sponsored terrorism indeed. How on earth did we get to the point in which, using Bushes expression, we are members of the axis of evil?

Well we started in Ireland, shifted to Africa then dropped in to Iraq via Afghanistan - twice. We seem to have pissed off quite a few people(or radical loonies as OGL would have us believe) along the way.

[suityou01]

I think the point here is that ID cards will happen, and they will only be technically optional. Gobal Ids are the next step FYI.

If we create compound key of

Zip Code
Door Number
Mobile Phone IMEI
NI Number
DOB
Surname
Car Reg

They can build a picture of your whereabouts. Passports have biometrics so as you travel you already have a global id of sorts.

This is global enslavement people. Now you have enough debt to keep you and your children and their children enslaved.

Cue the dollar collapse.

[Menelaus]

Ok Alf you can get a pat on the head too.

Bump

This is an interesting discussion.

[suityou01]

How about - the absence of an ID Card may delay your access to state benefits.

Ok Alf you can get a pat on the head too.

[Menelaus]

But without an ID card how will Our Glorious Leaders know whether they are handing over 60 quid to a sheep - sorry - honest, upright citizen or one of Bin Ladens chums? Goodness me, state sponsored terrorism. Again.

State sponsored terrorism indeed. How on earth did we get to the point in which, using Bushes expression, we are members of the axis of evil?

[Zippy]

They’ll make it a condition for getting unemployment benefit and then ‘lend’ people the 60 quid to buy one; then people will have to pay interest for the privilege of being turned into lemmings.

But without an ID card how will Our Glorious Leaders know whether they are handing over 60 quid to a sheep - sorry - honest, upright citizen or one of Bin Ladens chums? Goodness me, state sponsored terrorism. Again.

[EternalOptimist]

Apparently if you flick them (the cards), they make a distinctive sound.


Mind you, so do the missus's nips

[AlfredJPruffock]

Oh now that's good. Top work Minestrone.

How about - the absence of an ID Card may delay your access to state benefits.

[suityou01]

The cards will always be voluntary but they will push through some anti Money laundering legislation that means that you cannot get a financial product or open a bank account unless you have a card.

You heard it here first.

Oh now that's good. Top work Minestrone.

[Mich the Tester]

About MTTs point - how many people will it take to subvert the ID card plans? Assuming this shower are in power for the next year, I would ask how many will be able to afford 60 quid for a card. It may be a pragmatic view but I think it's likely to have a greater influence on whether people sign up or not.

They’ll make it a condition for getting unemployment benefit and then ‘lend’ people the 60 quid to buy one; then people will have to pay interest for the privilege of being turned into lemmings.

[AlfredJPruffock]

About MTTs point - how many people will it take to subvert the ID card plans? Assuming this shower are in power for the next year, I would ask how many will be able to afford 60 quid for a card. It may be a pragmatic view but I think it's likely to have a greater influence on whether people sign up or not.

I expect that the month before the ID Card release they wilk announce that for a limited period you will be able to get them for 20 quid - people love a bargain - they'll be flying out.

Perfect.

[Zippy]

About MTTs point - how many people will it take to subvert the ID card plans? Assuming this shower are in power for the next year, I would ask how many will be able to afford 60 quid for a card. It may be a pragmatic view but I think it's likely to have a greater influence on whether people sign up or not.

[Mich the Tester]

Sorry to break it to you old bean, but not even close. People like NO2ID have been harping on about that for years.

All over Europe ID cards are compulsory. I believe only Britain and possibly Ireland remain as the last vestiges of liberty where you can actually go outdoors without having to be able to prove your identity to some state quisling. This places a huge responsibility on the British public.