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    #31
    well if you vote for communists this is what you get, don't complain it's your fault

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      #32
      Originally posted by expat View Post
      Yes. But if you wish to do something that you as a citizen have a legal right to do (e.g. protest) and the nice copper is given orders as part of his job to do something that conflicts with that, and as a result he can hardly avoid feeling that you are not showing respect, then he may not respond in kind.

      That doesn't, or should not, take away the citizen's legal rights. One of which is the right not always to do what a policeman wants you to do, if this wish of his is not backed up by law.

      Orders come from the 'top' and that is probably HMG. With a change of government we hopefully will see respect return for the police.

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        #33
        FFS - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8004222.stm

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          #34
          I found my dealings with the police here in Switzerland have been far less confrontational and hostile than those in the UK. Even 20 years ago. Here, they seem much more to understand they are part of the community.
          Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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            #35
            oppps

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              #36
              Originally posted by Wonderstuff View Post
              What is more that worrying is that TPTB in the UK can now get a pathologist to write utter bollocks, such that even a lay person can spot it, and wonder what depths they will plunge to next.
              Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
              threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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                #37
                Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                I found my dealings with the police here in Switzerland have.
                Been skiing above the speed limit again have we?

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                  #38
                  Now the police are targetting civil liberties campaigners. This is bad. Freedom of speech is on the way out.

                  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6116023.ece


                  Police who arrested the Conservative frontbencher Damian Green trawled his private e-mails looking for information on Britain’s leading civil liberties campaigner.

                  Officers from Scotland Yard’s antiterror squad searched the computer seized from his parliamentary office using the key words “Shami Chakrabarti” – even though the Liberty director had nothing to do with the leaking of Home Office documents that prompted the investigation.
                  "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


                  Thomas Jefferson

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
                    Orders come from the 'top' and that is probably HMG. With a change of government we hopefully will see respect return for the police.
                    You obviously weren't watching (probably deliberately) when much that is now wrong with the police was first tried out for the Thatcher government.

                    Indeed, on of the prime things that Labour and Conservative politicians ahre is a tendency to discover once in power that some of the things their predecessors did that seemed so evil at the time actually have their uses now that they are in power.

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