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    #81
    Indeed BGG our Democracy is a total sham to be honest.

    We get the illusion of Democracy every 5 or so years, a party will get an unassailable majority with 40ish % of the popular vote and then the politicians can (and do) completely ignore the electorate until the next sham election.

    We bleat on the international stage about corrupt electoral systems and dictatorships, but I honestly don't see how the UK's Party whip system differs markedly from any other corrupt government.

    Our elected representatives (MP's) are supposed to represent the interests of their electorate, but the Party system is so deeply embedded that the MP's represent the interests of their party even when those interests are directly in opposition to the good of their electorate.
    If, god forbid, an MP has the guts to stand up for local interests and vote against the party line then they're disposed of asap and utterly sidelined immediately.

    To top things off our MP's blithely vote in measures that specifically exclude themselves from being subject to as MP's which amounts to nothing short of corruption by any reasonable definition.

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      #82
      I've said it before, we need to boot out every politician and every high ranking civil servant and start again. Ban political parties, have politicians that truely represent the constituencies that elect them, and reflect their views. Have a PM that is directly elected by the people.

      Oh, and invade France
      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        #83
        This country needs significantly less Government. Libertarian Party you know it makes sense

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          #84
          Got a mail drop through the door today for the Scottish progressive party never heard of them before but the website starts...

          Our economy now resembles that of an impoverished Soviet state before the collapse of the Berlin wall. The public sector accounts for up to 75% of economic activity and vast sums of money are squandered on useless projects.
          So I figure that someone here runs it.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Addanc View Post
            This country needs significantly less Government. Libertarian Party you know it makes sense
            How many votes did they get at the last election?

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              #86
              Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
              How many votes did they get at the last election?
              I believe they only formed 1st Jan 2008, hence zero. I find their idea of taking a bloody big scythe to the public sector very appealing

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                #87
                Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                They won't do any better than Labour you know.

                Why do you bother?
                Notwithstanding former pages of argument that I can't be bothered to read ... My MP (Pickles) has a huge majority and is better than the man in white.
                Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                  Notwithstanding former pages of argument that I can't be bothered to read ... My MP (Pickles) has a huge majority and is better than the man in white.
                  So he wont neec your vote then : you can vote for someone sensible.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Addanc View Post
                    This country needs significantly less Government. Libertarian Party you know it makes sense
                    They need to change the name. The policies look good (I am a natural libertarian myself), but with that name they have no chance. Can I suggest the People's Party.
                    Bored.

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                      #90
                      Never voted, can't vote (not on electoral roll and don't live in the UK).

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