What is the world coming to?

[Ivor Bigun]

I just went to pick up my wife and child from a kids party but as a I pulled in to the side of the road another car started reversing towards me, not wanting to get hit I flashed and waved my hands.

The next thing I know a guy that I can only describe as a 'yardy' jumps out and starts hurling abuse in jafaken English and whacking my window, he was saying he lived there and I had no right to park outside (it was double yellows??), all this with my wife trying to put my crying one year old in the back seat.

I live in a quiet Somerset town BTW, god knows what it's like in a rough urban area?

This country is turning into a crime ridden tuliphole, last one out turn off the light.

Have you ever considered you were lucky?
You probably got away lightly because your wife and child were there.
He probably couldn't bothered to knife all 3 of you.

Think I'm kidding? If you're on your own then fair enough. However, if you're with a baby / partner, you're far better off eating humble pie and getting the hell out of there. Your wounded pride will heal quicker than an injury to your family.

I had a similar situation to you. Luckily for me, it ended OK but it rapidly spiraled out of control and changed he way I do things. It started for exactly the same reason as you - I innocently remonstrated in a typical middle class way (flash lights etc).
This just pushed the nutter and his mate over the edge to the extent that he got out and stood by my car litterally foaming at the mouth and shouting. While this was going on, his mate went to the back of his car and took out a metal pipe. I wonder what he was going to do with that? I saw the look of horror of the woman driving the car stuck behind these nutters as he got the pipe out.
Remember that this was at 1pm on a busy road. They had stopped to get out and were holding up traffic on their side while I was in a traffic jam on the other side with nowhere to go

The guy standing in the road ended it in the end by saying something like "you shouldn't start things if you've got your baby in the car". WTF? some sort of honour code?
My child was scared witless and had started to cry - that probably stopped things getting really nasty as it gave these nutters just the excuse to stop I suppose. His mate put the pipe back in the boot, and they both climbed in and drove off.
When I think about it, the scariest thing was that it happened with such an innocious gesture on my part - probably just like you.
I also clearly remember (to this day) - the look of horror of the woman driver behind them - as one of them got the pipe out of the boot.

Never reported it - I hope I never see those nutters again.

[Purple Dalek]

Why not carry a gun? If someone is seen to go to the boot for an iron bar with which to attack someone else, there is no jury that will convict it you shot them dead.

[TheFaQQer]

Your pedantry is wrong here, I know the highway code pretty well and the caveat here is in bold

Originally Posted by Highway Code
Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs. You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings (see 'Road markings') when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stopping.

[Law RTRA sects 5 & 8]



You can stop on double yellows to load and unload depending on the kerb markings. PAH is correct only it's not parking as such although you can also pick up/drop passengers

http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/us...e+Yellow+Lines

I'd have thought that the "Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs." was the important bit, rather than the rest of it.

However, assuming that the Durham site you refer to is indicative of the Highway Code, I'll accept that I'm not right on this occasion - I thought that double yellows meant "no stopping, no parking, no waiting" (which I guess it does) and didn't realize that there is a specific exemption for "picking up and dropping off passengers".

[TimberWolf]

Why not carry a gun? If someone is seen to go to the boot for an iron bar with which to attack someone else, there is no jury that will convict it you shot them dead.

Scenario 1: No guns. Situation resolved itself peacefully, albeit with the victim ("the honker") feeling victimised. [ IMO beeping a horn is an provocative act related to chest beating and shouldn't really be carried out unless you're feeling particularly hard that day (the highway code disagrees), but I digress ].

Scenario 2: Guns. Victim shoots assailants. Assailants either die/exit or shoot back and he dies, bystanders possibly killed in shoot-out too. If the honker survives, the aggressor or his mates might feel rightly peeved off at being shot at/killed. Honker disappears in mysterious circumstances some months later. Generations of ill-will ensue.

[scooby]

I'd have thought that the "Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs." was the important bit, rather than the rest of it.

However, assuming that the Durham site you refer to is indicative of the Highway Code, I'll accept that I'm not right on this occasion - I thought that double yellows meant "no stopping, no parking, no waiting" (which I guess it does) and didn't realize that there is a specific exemption for "picking up and dropping off passengers".

isnt that the red zones (red double lines etc)?

[Ruprect]

Arguing about interpretations of the highway code - you guys sure know how to live!!!

[EternalOptimist]

Scenario 1: No guns. Situation resolved itself peacefully, albeit with the victim ("the honker") feeling victimised. [ IMO beeping a horn is an provocative act related to chest beating and shouldn't really be carried out unless you're feeling particularly hard that day (the highway code disagrees), but I digress ].

Scenario 2: Guns. Victim shoots assailants. Assailants either die/exit or shoot back and he dies, bystanders possibly killed in shoot-out too. If the honker survives, the aggressor or his mates might feel rightly peeved off at being shot at/killed. Honker disappears in mysterious circumstances some months later. Generations of ill-will ensue.

Scenario 1. victim feels bad about how he handled the situation. Wife loses respect for wimpy husband who has no street cred and the victim begins to suffer a lack of self esteem. Self confidence starts to ebb away and the contracting life becomes unsustainable. Permiedom beckons and the wife can not stand the loss of income and status.
She leaves in disgust and the victim turns to the bottle. The young child becomes alienated and begins to hate father.
victim loses job and crawls off to die in a litters strewn corner of a supermarket car park.

Scenario 2. victim pulls out magnum and blasts thug number one in the chest. A gun battle with thug number 2 ensues, thug 2 takes a slug in the head but victim is hit , mortally. Wife and child look on admiringly as victim staggers off to die in the litter strewn corner of a supermarket car park.


Dont fck about with double yellow lines

[Purple Dalek]

Scenario 1: No guns. Situation resolved itself peacefully, albeit with the victim ("the honker") feeling victimised. [ IMO beeping a horn is an provocative act related to chest beating and shouldn't really be carried out unless you're feeling particularly hard that day (the highway code disagrees), but I digress ].

Scenario 2: Guns. Victim shoots assailants. Assailants either die/exit or shoot back and he dies, bystanders possibly killed in shoot-out too. If the honker survives, the aggressor or his mates might feel rightly peeved off at being shot at/killed. Honker disappears in mysterious circumstances some months later. Generations of ill-will ensue.

Scenario 3: Guns. Victim shoots assailants. Assailants die. The world is a better place and people feel safe walking the streets.

You do know that the people you describe are responsible for 99% of all crime?

That one the farmer shot resulted in car crime in several towns virtually disappearing for several months.

[TimberWolf]

Scenario 3: Guns. Victim shoots assailants. Assailants die. The world is a better place and people feel safe walking the streets.

You do know that the people you describe are responsible for 99% of all crime?

That one the farmer shot resulted in car crime in several towns virtually disappearing for several months.

It's up to society and the courts to pass a death sentence, otherwise we are back to the dark ages, where even then I doubt it was a death penalty for theft. The farmer was a murderer.

[Purple Dalek]

It's up to society and the courts to pass a death sentence, otherwise we are back to the dark ages, where even then I doubt it was a death penalty for theft. The farmer was a murderer.

Well, of course there would need to be a court case after someone was shot. That goes without saying. Yet, some miscreants just need to be put out of our misery. Why should we rely on the Police and Social workers and a pyramid of other busybodies, who no doubt are overstretched dealing with others who need culling, when the task is easily dealt with, on the spot, by a citizen with a gun?