failed asylum seeker kills himself after being deported

[Doggy Styles]

oh, the inanity!

is my doorstep a national border, minestrone? do you think maybe you over-reached yourself with that completely fatuous extrapolation?

I'm not sure he has. He is merely demonstrating in extremis the principle of 'whose country is it anyway'?

It's your house, it's our nation. Same principle.

[lambrini_socialist]

It's your house, it's our nation. Same principle.

no, it really really isn't. the issue is national borders and the free movement of people between countries. nothing else.

[Mich the Tester]

no, it really really isn't. the issue is national borders and the free movement of people between countries. nothing else.

I think you're on to a loser here. Personally I like the idea of freedom of movement, but a lot of people want to keep hold of their own privileged position as citizens of a once mighty bankrupt country, to the exclusion of those from once bankrupt improving countries.

[lambrini_socialist]

yeah, wrong forum really. but it would be nice if people who supported free movement of capital also supported free movement of people.

[Mich the Tester]

yeah, wrong forum really. but it would be nice if people who supported free movement of capital also supported free movement of people.

I support both. But then I'm somebody who has moved myself and my business to another country, and might do that again. Free movement within the EU has benefitted me directly, in that I don't live in a bankrupt Great Gordondom.

[DimPrawn]

yeah, wrong forum really. but it would be nice if people who supported free movement of capital also supported free movement of people.

Yeah I like the idea of 15,000,000 HIV sufferers from Africa in the queue at my local doctors getting their free prescriptions for medicine that costs £500 a pop, before they put their 12 children into free nursery care before they pop back to their free social housing.



Of course I could freely pop over to Chad or Malawi for free machete treatment.

[Moscow Mule]

no, it really really isn't. the issue is national borders and the free movement of people between countries. nothing else.

Good luck with that. For it to be practicable, you would have to have some form of world government and get everybody to agree to abolish the welfare state.

You're about 100 (or maybe 1000) years too early.

[lambrini_socialist]

actually i think you lot really only object to the free movement of poor people. entrepreneurial engines of economic growth like ourselves can go where we like, right?

[Pondlife]

Can someone give me a hand pulling this ladder up.

[Mich the Tester]

actually i think you lot really only object to the free movement of poor people. entrepreneurial engines of economic growth like ourselves can go where we like, right?

I think that's what it boils down to, yes. Unfortunately. I was relatively poor (by western standards, so not really poor) once and I just wanted a chance to work and make a go of life. I'm rich now and it would be bloody hypocritical of me to try and deny others a chance.