Meta-study shows religious people are less intelligent

[Mich the Tester]

There's no point in having a cake and not eating it.

Unless you're on a diet and into mental self-flagellation.

Or if there’s a woman in a latex nun’s outfit telling you you’re not allowed to eat it until you do as you’re told.

[Ruprect]

Ah, thanks for the clarification Cailin.

Of course I respect your beliefs and your right to hold them.

That's a personal thing for you and you alone.

Whether I choose to accept their validity is my right, and my right alone as well.

Exactly

Get a room you two!

Oh I forgot, its against CM's religion

[Board Game Geek]

LOL !

I think Churchy might take a bite out of my leg if I dared try !

(And Mrs BGG as well) :-)

[d000hg]

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-thinkingchristians.htm

No surprise there then.

What a reputable survey. And hardly a big difference in results. I know morons who are atheists and a very well regarded professor of cosmology (black holes etc) who believes the bible to be the true word of God.

And I never heard that myth before. Did they make it up as an excuse to do the survey? Many famous scientists are Christians but that's not the same as saying most of them are.

And, are we equating intelligence with wealth? Those who know the most how the universe works are probably those who earn peanuts as researchers at universities, not arrogant middle managers who drive BMWs

[deano]

It's not personal. If you really believe then you must follow the rules - otherwise isn't it a kind of having your cake and eating it?

No. None of us are perfect. We try but we are only human and therefore are doomed to get it wrong, over and over again until we die.

Having faith doesn't mean that we are indistiguishable from Christ, but that we try a little harder every day not be be complete gits. Of course, gitishness is inherent in everyone from thick, unquestioning Christians to arrogant, vaccuous atheists.

It's like having our cake and trying not to eat it because that makes us gits, but failing and stuffing our faces with it anyway. And then God saying, well you were a git but it's my choice on whether I let you into heaven or not anyway. And because you believed in me and my son, and even though you were a git you at least tried to not be a git, so I'll let you into heaven.

[sasguru]

What a reputable survey. And hardly a big difference in results. I know morons who are atheists and a very well regarded professor of cosmology (black holes etc) who believes the bible to be the true word of God.

And I never heard that myth before. Did they make it up as an excuse to do the survey? Many famous scientists are Christians but that's not the same as saying most of them are.

And, are we equating intelligence with wealth? Those who know the most how the universe works are probably those who earn peanuts as researchers at universities, not arrogant middle managers who drive BMWs

I think you only have to read this thread to see that the conclusion in the thread title is correct

[gingerjedi]

There's no point in having a cake and not eating it.

Unless you're on a diet and into mental self-flagellation.

Bless me father for I have sinned.... all sorted.

[Ruprect]

No. None of us are perfect. We try but we are only human and therefore are doomed to get it wrong, over and over again until we die.

Having faith doesn't mean that we are indistiguishable from Christ, but that we try a little harder every day not be be complete gits. Of course, gitishness is inherent in everyone from thick, unquestioning Christians to arrogant, vaccuous atheists.

It's like having our cake and trying not to eat it because that makes us gits, but failing and stuffing our faces with it anyway. And then God saying, well you were a git but it's my choice on whether I let you into heaven or not anyway. And because you believed in me and my son, and even though you were a git you at least tried to not be a git, so I'll let you into heaven.

You are mistaking religion for virtuousness aren't you? Indeed it looks like you are saying that only the religious can be virtuous, which of course is utter rubbish.

[sasguru]

No. None of us are perfect. We try but we are only human and therefore are doomed to get it wrong, over and over again until we die.

Having faith doesn't mean that we are indistiguishable from Christ, but that we try a little harder every day not be be complete gits. Of course, gitishness is inherent in everyone from thick, unquestioning Christians to arrogant, vaccuous atheists.

It's like having our cake and trying not to eat it because that makes us gits, but failing and stuffing our faces with it anyway. And then God saying, well you were a git but it's my choice on whether I let you into heaven or not anyway. And because you believed in me and my son, and even though you were a git you at least tried to not be a git, so I'll let you into heaven.

That's roughly what the tube bombers said in their video. They were trying to be less git-like.

[deano]

I think you only have to read this thread to see that the conclusion in the thread title is correct

I think that's the second time you've used that line. Nobody else has bought into it and it seems to be turning into quite an interesting debate.

You seem to be losing interest in taking the debate forward and rather more interested in ad hominem attacks and calling the debate over because you seem to believe you have somehow won.

Someone less charitable would think you were not as clever as you thought you were. I wouldn't though. I think you are very, very clever. A towering intellect that burns like the bright Light of the World!