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Shannon Mathews endgame?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
    You don't think her whole childhood is going to be monitored with such extreme interest by an entire army of council social workers that it's going to produce it's own harm, that may well be even worse. One must realise that in the initial situation her life was more or less 'normal'...
    Anything has to be better than being raised by those dangerous half-wits.
    Having said that - she's lucky they didn't have the brains to be dangerous and think the situation through to its logical conclusion once they'd started this. Otherwise they might have entertained other options.

    Social security will find a distant relative or foster family to care for her, she'll be fine.

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      #22
      karen matthews is a fick and ugly chav innit.

      Here endeth the lesson...
      Older and ...well, just older!!

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        #23
        Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
        karen matthews is a fick and ugly chav innit.

        Here endeth the lesson...
        My point is that is what normal is. You lot, with your 'oh dears', trying to impress your nuveau riche pseudo intellectual victorian middle class values on such a situation is mockingly absurd.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
          My point is that is what normal is. You lot, with your 'oh dears', trying to impress your nuveau riche pseudo intellectual victorian middle class values on such a situation is mockingly absurd.
          For a dalek - you are full of shit.
          Older and ...well, just older!!

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            #25
            Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
            My point is that is what normal is. You lot, with your 'oh dears', trying to impress your nuveau riche pseudo intellectual victorian middle class values on such a situation is mockingly absurd.
            Agreed that normalcy is only a relative value, hence using terms like 'better'. By better I mean more stable, less likely to be tied up, that sort of thing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
              My point is that is what normal is. You lot, with your 'oh dears', trying to impress your nuveau riche pseudo intellectual victorian middle class values on such a situation is mockingly absurd.
              nouveau

              HTH
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                #27
                Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
                My point is that is what normal is. You lot, with your 'oh dears', trying to impress your nuveau riche pseudo intellectual victorian middle class values on such a situation is mockingly absurd.
                I don't think the feelings that Karen Matthew's plan has stirred up are particularly middle-class. I think that there are just as many people shocked from other classes, upper-, lower- and under-.

                What she did was wrong in anyone's eyes, no matter what you read; The Times, The Daily Mail, The Sun or Class War.

                It's no good trying to provide a class-based explanation for her actions, when one doesn't exist, in order to then provoke a debate about capitalism, education and wealth-redistribution, which is what some left-wing apologists will no doubt be attempting.

                The "Oh Dear" reaction is the right one. The words that are used may not be "Oh dear", depending upon your own education and background, but that is merely the displayed result of the common reaction that has taken place within any right-thinking individual.

                It also seems to me, that to dismiss an argument from the middle-classes (whatever they are these days) as "pseudo-intellectual", and therefore worth less than one from some other class is a little arrogant.
                When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns--or dollars. Take your choice - Ayn Rand, Atlas.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Purple Dalek View Post
                  My point is that is what normal is. You lot, with your 'oh dears', trying to impress your nuveau riche pseudo intellectual victorian middle class values on such a situation is mockingly absurd.
                  Drugging your kid is normal? Probably. Doesn't make it right.
                  Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                    #29
                    It all sounds normal to me.

                    When I were t'lad , fatha used to come back from t'pub
                    tie me up wit washin line
                    an Mutha would stuff me under t'bed an call t'cops.
                    Then we'd go ta Butlins wi reward money
                    an do it all agin next week.





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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                      Drugging your kid is normal? Probably. Doesn't make it right.
                      My point exactly. Everyone getting all fired up about this one case when the reality is most of the individual parts are 'normal', the only thing of note here is the confluence.

                      Do people blockade Boots to stop them selling massive amounts of these over-the-counter 'cough' medicines? Not really.

                      So why all the hand wringing?

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