Massacres

[AtW]

Hinduism as a religion is well over 4000 years old, however Buddhism is only about 1500 years old. Get your fact straight before you make a fool of yourself AtW!!!

Relax, I take your corrections - as I said I did not use correct word to collectively describe religions that have Buddha as top guy, it's the same as if I said Protestants meaning Christianity (which includes more than them) or if I said Shia meaning Islam (which again includes more than Shias).

The point is still valid - the religion that Ghandi followed had much lower propensity to violence, do you think if he and other people in India followed Islam they would have accepted his idea of more or less peaceful protest at occupation? I doubt it. And that is the point.

[Churchill]

Hinduism is not Buddhism you flipin eejit. Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism taken up mainly by oriental asian countries (apart from Sri Lanka, but then not many people can explain Sri Lanka.... ). Japan practises Shinto, however when Buddhism came across to china it also started to insinuate itself into Japan as well (Not a huge shock since the countries border each other.

You will be hard pressed to find any Buddist temples in India, you will find that they are all Hindu, Muslim and Sikh. It is also worth mentioning that most Indians did not see themselves as Hindu's until foreigners came over and started describing them as such. Thier religion was just that, thier religion and the way they lived thier lives.

Hinduism as a religion is well over 4000 years old, however Buddhism is only about 1500 years old. Get your fact straight before you make a fool of yourself AtW!!!

You do know which search engine AtW uses, don't you?

[AtW]

Hinduism is not Buddhism you flipin eejit.

Just like Catolisism is not the same as Protestants, and Shias are not the same as Shiites or Wahhabies, however the uniting part for the first is Christianity and for the latter it is Islam, my mistake was to use wrong collective word for religions that have Buddha as the top guy, either way my main point stands despite this mistake which I am happily admitting to have made, that's another point for all those who say I never admit errors, so STFU you doubters.

[AtW]

You do know which search engine AtW uses, don't you?

[Churchill]

Relax, I take your corrections - as I said I did not use correct word to collectively describe religions that have Buddha as top guy, it's the same as if I said Protestants meaning Christianity (which includes more than them) or if I said Shia meaning Islam (which again includes more than Shias).

The point is still valid - the religion that Ghandi followed had much lower propensity to violence, do you think if he and other people in India followed Islam they would have accepted his idea of more or less peaceful protest at occupation? I doubt it. And that is the point.

You want to read about what happened between the Hindus and Budhists at Ankor Wat.

[AtW]

You want to read about what happened between the Hindus and Budhists at Ankor Wat.

Not massacre surely?

[AtW]

You want to read about what happened between the Hindus and Budhists at Ankor Wat.

Can't be arsed to read in detail (first links don't seem to suggest it was a massacre), but lets assume there was big violence there, so what? Christians were killing each other and so were different factions in Islam, that's not uncommon, the level of violence however is different and looking at current teachings of all religions Hinduism is hardly the most violent one.

Can someone like Ghandi appear in Palestine? Doubtful he would survice long enough for his voice to be heard publicly and the reason for this, sadly, is religion that cuts off all reasonable means of solving that complex problem. In India's case religion helped them win back their land, but in case of Palestine religion only sets them back.

[Churchill]

Not massacre surely?

Yes dear boy, the Hindus wiped out the budhists.

Your search engine is no substitute for actually leaving your bedsit and actually seeing some of the world.

Come back when you've got a f**king clue.

That should see him gone for a few years!

[AtW]

Yes dear boy, the Hindus wiped out the budhists.

So? You need to look at the whole picture not some elements, same massacres happened with different factions of Christians (France a few centuries ago), and with Islam factions too - all religions are at fault. What matters right now is what current religions say - Christianity is pretty mild, so is Hinduism, Islam however is pretty aggressive in the ways it deals with things that don't fit the doctrine - the closest example I can find is Inquisition in Spain but that was some centuries ago.

The key point is this - if Islam was in place in India during Ghandi times rather than Hinduism, then would the difference in religion affect the choices made in the ways local population resister the British Empire? I am positive that much generally milder nature of religions that consider Buddha as top resulted in a much more peaceful resolution of the problem. Would that have happened if 1 bln Indians were following Islam? Doubtful in my view.

[Churchill]

So? You need to look at the whole picture not some elements, same massacres happened with different factions of Christians (France a few centuries ago), and with Islam factions too - all religions are at fault. What matters right now is what current religions say - Christianity is pretty mild, so is Hinduism, Islam however is pretty aggressive in the ways it deals with things that don't fit the doctrine - the closest example I can find is Inquisition in Spain but that was some centuries ago.

The key point is this - if Islam was in place in India during Ghandi times rather than Hinduism, then would the difference in religion affect the choices made in the ways local population resister the British Empire? I am positive that much generally milder nature of religions that consider Buddha as top resulted in a much more peaceful resolution of the problem. Would that have happened if 1 bln Indians were following Islam? Doubtful in my view.

Check out what happened to the Albigensians, what about what the Christians did during the Crusades? How about the Incas?