Massacres

[Churchill]

Yes I did thanks.

See? You haven't got a bloody clue!

[AtW]

You missed and Judaism, although theses days it is not the Jews but political Israel supported by fundamentalist Christians in the US

I did not mention it because it is a much less frequently used religion so their impact can't be very high, only locally I suppose.

[AtW]

See? You haven't got a bloody clue!

You are confusing spelling here with "clues", my main assertion stands so if you want to discuss it refer to it rather than spelling or other mistakes that do not affect the main arguement.

[Churchill]

You are confusing spelling here with "clues", my main assertion stands so if you want to discuss it refer to it rather than spelling or other mistakes that do not affect the main arguement.

It's nothing to do with spelling, it's to do with the fact that you're spouting off about something you have very little knowledge of.

Because you don't have that knowledge you're getting confused.

[AtW]

It's nothing to do with spelling, it's to do with the fact that you're spouting off about something you have very little knowledge of.

Can you answer please simple question - if Islam was dominating religion in India around Ghandi time, then would have Ghandi (if he was the leader of resistance) chosen peaceful path to win back their land or not? Yes or No.

[Churchill]

Can you answer please simple question - if Islam was dominating religion in India around Ghandi time, then would have Ghandi (if he was the leader of resistance) chosen peaceful path to win back their land or not? Yes or No.

Before Ghandi promoted the path of Peaceful Resistance, there was much bloodshed in India at the time. Any uprisings were stamped down by the ruling British.

Many Hindus lost their lives.

Would the Muslims have had a "Ghandi" equivalent? I really don't know.

[AtW]

Before Ghandi promoted the path of Peaceful Resistance

In your opinion, if Ghandi and his fellow citizens had Islam as their religion rather than Hinduism, then would that religion have made it harder for them to choose this path of Peaceful Resistance?

Bloodshed in Palestine has been going on for a very long time now, yet, no evidence of Palestinians choosing the path that Ghandi had chosen (that was accepted by large number of his compatriots).

[Churchill]

In your opinion, if Ghandi and his fellow citizens had Islam as their religion rather than Hinduism, then would have made it harder for them to choose this path of Peaceful Resistance?

Islam does have a history of promoting peace. Once the dust had settled after the Crusades, Saladin did in fact permit Christians to visit and worship in Jerusalem.

You're making the mistake of tarring every muslim with the fundamentalist brush.

[AtW]

You're making the mistake of tarring every muslim with the fundamentalist brush.

I am not tarring everyone, for example the model that Turkey has adopted in my view is very good and should be greatly encouraged.

What I am saying here is that in my view religions played and sadly continue to play way too big role in conflicts, but some religions (at least right now at current state of affairs) are far more violent than others - we certainly don't hear a lot right now about extremist Christians or Hinduists blowing themselves up to kill civilians.

It would have been better if all religions were demoted to strictly personal things.

[Churchill]

I am not tarring everyone, for example the model that Turkey has adopted in my view is very good and should be greatly encouraged.

What I am saying here is that in my view religions played and sadly continue to play way too big role in conflicts, but some religions (at least right now at current state of affairs) are far more violent than others - we certainly don't hear a lot right now about extremist Christians or Hinduists blowing themselves up to kill civilians.

It would have been better if all religions were demoted to strictly personal things.

Politics and Religion need to be separated to enable a nation to flourish. Eventually this may happen in the Middle East, in my lifetime, probably not!