Massacres

[AtW]

Actually I think South African's aparteid could have been a model for resolution - very close situation if you ignore religions, some people who did not live there took land and natives resisted. Don't actually remember the details but I guess if Mandela got involved into blowing up white civilians en masse he'd never achieve the results.

If Palestinians want to win it they need to renounce violence and only use peaceful resistance - that would make inevitable solution of the problem like it was in South Africa, probably different but still make it possible.

Perhaps when main sponsors of terrorism in the middle east stop their efforts palestinians will see the light, until then they are doomed to never achieve their objectives, assuming here they have some sane objectives.

[sasguru]

Buddism (most popular religion in India) .

No it's not. You really don't have a clue about anything do you?

[AtW]

No it's not. You really don't have a clue about anything do you?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/in.html

Religions:
Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.9%, other 1.8%, unspecified 0.1% (2001 census)

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http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_buddhism.asp

"Both Hinduism and Buddhism originated in the Indian subcontinent and share a very long, but rather
peculiar and uncomfortable relationship, which in many ways is comparable to that of Judaism and Christianity. The Buddha was born in a Hindu family, just as Christ was born in a Jewish family."

Hinduism and Buddhism are like Shia and Shiite in Islam, different interpretations, I perhaps was wrong to use "Buddhism" as collective religion meaning all those that are variations of it, not sure what the right word like Islam would have united different parts into one, perhaps you could share it from your fountain of infinite wisdom?

[Gonzo]

Actually I think South African's aparteid could have been a model for resolution - very close situation if you ignore religions, some people who did not live there took land and natives resisted.

Sadly, I think that in that situation it was very easy to see things in terms of "us and them". I don't think that those sort of ideas will be put aside until people realise that we are, in fact, all the same.

It will probably take another ten generations of inter-racial mixing before we get anywhere close, and we need the notion of "nation" to have become redundant. There is no reason why that shouldn't happen eventually.

I expect to be long dead by the time that that happens though.

But the world is a very different place now to how it was ten generations ago, so I think it is OK to expect the future to be completely unrecognisable from what we see today.

[BrilloPad]

Sadly, I think that in that situation it was very easy to see things in terms of "us and them". I don't think that those sort of ideas will be put aside until people realise that we are, in fact, all the same.

It will probably take another ten generations of inter-racial mixing before we get anywhere close, and we need the notion of "nation" to have become redundant. There is no reason why that shouldn't happen eventually.

I expect to be long dead by the time that that happens though.

But the world is a very different place now to how it was ten generations ago, so I think it is OK to expect the future to be completely unrecognisable from what we see today.

I like to think I am alot better than everyone else.

[Purple Dalek]

Battle of Thermopylae

[AtW]

Sadly, I think that in that situation it was very easy to see things in terms of "us and them".

South Africa I think was very lucky that there was no major religious influence on both sides in that problem - what would have happened if the black population of South Africa were converted to Islam and made a vow to destroy all white men who run SA at the time? That would sure result in never ending conflict like it is the case in Israel. Granted Israel is caught in religious trap but at least they act reasonably responsibly at the moment.

The sad part that someone like Ghandi among Palestinians would be killed by their own as "traitor".

[EternalOptimist]

It will probably take another ten generations of inter-racial mixing before we get anywhere close, and we need the notion of "nation" to have become redundant. There is no reason why that shouldn't happen eventually.

I expect to be long dead by the time that that happens though.

You expect to be dead before ten generations have passed
thats a tad pessimistic isn't it?

I wonder if anyone can name a single conflict where anyone involved can NOT portray the other side as demons for one reason or another.


My dad told me an interesting story. In WWII he was in the Royal navy, and after the allies had conquered Rome, in 1944, he was sent ashore for a weeks leave. He stayed in a small town near Rome and he saw a lot of large posters stuck on the side of the buildings.
The posters showed a crazed Tommy with blood dripping off pointy teeth, trampling an Italian momma and holding a little bambino , impaled on his bayonet. At first my dad laughed it off, till he realised that the Eiyties were terrified, they thought it was true. They knew nothing about concentration camps or gas chambers, all they knew was that the eighth army was full of murderers, rapists and looters.

[NotAllThere]

Israel has done bad things to Palestinians. A pregnant Christian Palestianian, 9 months gone, ready to drop, was denied the medical help she needed, because she was a Palestinian. And she and the baby died.

Later that year, her parents lost their son as well, because Islamic fundamentalists blew up his Christian bookshop.

[NotAllThere]

Historical Massacres ....

http://abbc.net/islam/english/toread/massac2.htm


discuss!!!


or yawn, just read!!

Yawns by a proven racist. You've no credibility. You sicken me with your self-righteous bigotted attitude. But, you turn to Isa. Then you can be forgiven.

Try this one. http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

And while we're trading atrocities, try this one: http://www.templemountfaithful.org/News/20021114.htm

Such BRAVE soldiers.