the things lefties say

[HairyArsedBloke]

"Capitalism is bloody brilliant!"
"Maggie was a proper leader and was a goddess and everything."
"What's Clause 4?"
"What's a union?"

[NickFitz]

EU Lisbon treaty: "Irish didn't know what they were voting for. They just voted no to give their government a kicking. That shouldn't stop the treaty going ahead. UK shouldn't be given a vote, likewise Brits wouldn't understand what they're voting for either. Should be left to politicians. Brits voted for all this in the 1970s anyway so they shouldn't complain. The people who complain are those who are brainwashed by the Daily Mail".

Right wing response: how lovely to see the left's belief in democracy and respect for the people. Clearly no one is brainwashed by the guardian or the beeb, ever. Only clever people get their info from there, clearly. Why not cancel all future elections now, the people are obviously too stupid not to vote for the liberal-leftie marxists, so why let them.

[citation needed]

[contractor79]

commies are still with us

[NickFitz]

commies are still with us

[citation needed]

[Old Greg]

EU Lisbon treaty: "Irish didn't know what they were voting for. They just voted no to give their government a kicking. That shouldn't stop the treaty going ahead. UK shouldn't be given a vote, likewise Brits wouldn't understand what they're voting for either. Should be left to politicians. Brits voted for all this in the 1970s anyway so they shouldn't complain. The people who complain are those who are brainwashed by the Daily Mail".

Right wing response: how lovely to see the left's belief in democracy and respect for the people. Clearly no one is brainwashed by the guardian or the beeb, ever. Only clever people get their info from there, clearly. Why not cancel all future elections now, the people are obviously too stupid not to vote for the liberal-leftie marxists, so why let them.

In the absence of proper lefites, I'll have to do. Like Tony Benn (and everyone I know on the left), I'm completetly against the Lisbon treaty. It's anti-democratic and will shift power from democratically elected representatives (who imperfect as they are are at least accountable through elections) to an undemocratic central body. Benn espouses the left libertarian argument here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../29/do2903.xml

You will find that many on the left are internationalists, but support for the EU doesn not necessarily follow. I don't believe in the nation state but prefer to live in a democratic nation state than an undemocratic supranation.

[contractor79]

In the absence of proper lefites, I'll have to do. Like Tony Benn (and everyone I know on the left), I'm completetly against the Lisbon treaty. It's anti-democratic and will shift power from democratically elected representatives (who imperfect as they are are at least accountable through elections) to an undemocratic central body. Benn espouses the left libertarian argument here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../29/do2903.xml

You will find that many on the left are internationalists, but support for the EU doesn not necessarily follow. I don't believe in the nation state but prefer to live in a democratic nation state than an undemocratic supranation.

that makes sense.
maybe I'm using the wrong labels
what do you call someone who thinks people are too stupid to vote in an EU referendum?

[vetran]

New lie?

[Bagpuss]

Things Lefties say

1/ why is my life expectancy shorter
2/ why is that left handed guitar so expensive
3/ why does the ink smudge when I write

[Old Greg]

that makes sense.
maybe I'm using the wrong labels
what do you call someone who thinks people are too stupid to vote in an EU referendum?

Autocrat?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

that makes sense.
maybe I'm using the wrong labels..........

why do you feel the need to use labels at all?