Archbishop of Cantebury - STFU !

[expat]

It does not surprise me he has marxist ideals. He is a liberal-leftie who is not the strong leader of the Church we need at this time when other religions are coming in and taking over.

He is IMHO the strongest leader the CofE has had in my rather long memory. Not a raving tyrant, but a strong force in theology and society.

[Moscow Mule]

Despite the troll-like nature of the post, I will answer.

I was speaking briefly, and loosely, in order to get to the point that I was making at the time. On this point, I do not hold a faith-based conviction on the existence or otherwise of god. I actually resent being held to the word "atheist" because it is capable of being seen as "just another -ist".

My position (actually I resent the implication that I must have a "position") is that I do not have much reason to think about the question of god. Some people do, but I do not really know why. Some of those seem to think that I should believe in the existence of a god, but none has yet come up with anything to convince me. So I go about my business without much reference to this "god" concept.

If you ask me whether I believe it, I suppose I might ask whether you believe in Martians. Yes, it would be important if they did exist, but on balance I see no reason to think that they might; if any evidence ever comes in, I'll react to it then. Meanwhile, I don't believe in Martians: that does not make me a rabid faith-based believer in Martian-nonexistence.

Good, you're probably a Weak Agnostic which is most like my own views.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

It does not surprise me he has marxist ideals. He is a liberal-leftie who is not the strong leader of the Church we need at this time when other religions are coming in and taking over.

Eh? Isn't Christianity as a whole a bit Liberal Leftie (except in the USA)? It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Turn the other cheek etc???

[sasguru]

Good, you're probably a Weak Agnostic which is most like my own views.

You lesser human beings make me laugh
You just can't abandon the God idea, can you, so you sit on the fence trying to hedge your bets.
As any intelligent person can see, religion and gods are purely human cultural artefacts.
Once you've understood that, and the fact there are better ways to explain emergence of life on earth, the God idea can be discarded completely.

The argument that it is not proven either way is nonsense - it hasn't been proven that tooth fairies don't exist either but you're not "tooth fairy agnostic" are you?

[expat]

Good, you're probably a Weak Agnostic which is most like my own views.

I take the point but I would say that, although you may go with that description if indeed you care what I think, but an important part of my philosophy is that I do not think about it and I do not care to refine the description. The whole question of classifying one's point of view like this belongs to religion, and I am non-religious. Not anti-, but definitely non-. I dislike being dragged into these discussions, as if the religious people, who would prefer me to believe in their god, will settle for making me at least discuss their interests in their terms.

[d000hg]

Eh? Isn't Christianity as a whole a bit Liberal Leftie (except in the USA)? It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Turn the other cheek etc???

Christianity just says money isn't the most important thing. It's not wishy-washy/weak... at least not how it's described in the bible. Any given denomination varies from that in different ways, CofE is basically soft and nice and PC.

[contractor79]

Eh? Isn't Christianity as a whole a bit Liberal Leftie (except in the USA)? It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Turn the other cheek etc???

not really look at the american evangelicals they vote republican in the main
liberal lefties want the state to take over from parents, think abt it

[AlfredJPruffock]

Christianity just says money isn't the most important thing. It's not wishy-washy/weak... at least not how it's described in the bible. Any given denomination varies from that in different ways, CofE is basically soft and nice and PC.

Give me control of a countys money supply and you can believe in any religion or pass any law you fancy.





Render that which is Bush unto Bush ...

[expat]

Christianity just says money isn't the most important thing. It's not wishy-washy/weak... at least not how it's described in the bible. Any given denomination varies from that in different ways, CofE is basically soft and nice and PC.

apart from burning the odd heretic....

[AlfredJPruffock]

apart from burning the odd heretic....

Burning ?? - luxury - we used to dream of burning - local priest would come round on his bike and then put us in the Iron Coffin - with spikes on the inside- till we all cheered up ...