Why the tories do not deserve to win the next election

[tay]

Dammit I agree with DA.
I think the guiding principle is simple - pay for your kids anything that helps them to help themselves - education, maybe a deposit for their first property, but don't give them so much that they don't have to exert themselves somehow.

And if you die before you get the chance to do that? Tough luck?

[DodgyAgent]

I never said he was spoiled. But he has been advantaged over others financially through your hard work / heartless pillaging. To be really fair we should all give our money to the govt as we earn it, and they distribute it, its only fair.....

I am not talking about being fair I am talking about how I think my children should be brought up in order to cope and excel in todays society. You are pitching the argument into a different territory Tay. As you do not yet have children I would not expect you to understand my point. You could give it a go as I am sure one day you will be faced with balancing generosity with your children with what is best for them.

[tay]

I will get back to you in Feb then when mini tay is due... I dont think my opinion will have changed much... as I am happy to give my money to my kids, and dont think you have to spoil them to do it.

In fact I bet if you die tomorrow and leave him your money, your son will still be the same financially responsible chap he is now, you have laid the groundwork already, and it has nothing to do with windfalls at later age and everything to do with teaching responsibility as a child.

[ratewhore]

...You are pitching the argument into a different territory Tay. As you do not yet have children I would not expect you to understand my point...

I'm not sure what your point is after you said this:

Giving material goods and money to children is a sign of a parent that gives precious little else, which is in turn tantamount to child abuse.

[DodgyAgent]

I'm not sure what your point is after you said this:

My point is that giving money to people for doing nothing is not good for them, whether it is your children or anyone else.

[ratewhore]

Hmm, I disagree. However, I can't be arsed debating so I'm going to go and insult Wilmslow instead...

[DodgyAgent]

In fact I bet if you die tomorrow and leave him your money, your son will still be the same financially responsible chap he is now, you have laid the groundwork already, and it has nothing to do with windfalls at later age and everything to do with teaching responsibility as a child.

If you had a windfall of money would you be as motivated to work?
Would you be as motivated to work as hard as you would before the windfall? or would you work on your terms more than on your employers terms?

[DodgyAgent]

Kids of lazy usless knuckle draggers who are jealous of other peoples wealth...

They should get the same financial standard of living as your son surely?

Why?

[oracleslave]

If you had a windfall of money would you be as motivated to work?
Would you be as motivated to work as hard as you would before the windfall? or would you work on your terms more than on your employers terms?

Does getting a windfall often not result in one being able to work in a field/job that one os genuinely interested in rather than one that pays the bills. Personally if I was able to work in a job I was interested in rather than the current scenario then I would work far harder.

[tay]

Why?

Exactly!