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    #21
    Originally posted by Bob Dalek View Post
    All together now:
    I believe that children are our future...

    Oh, does that include the knife-wielding psychos that seem to have hatched recently? Oh well.
    Too lads returned from a tour of duty in Iraq recently to Dreghorn Barracks here in Edinburgh, both in Hospital now after being stab by youths at the weekend in an unprovoked attack.
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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      #22
      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
      I believe in Christian The Lion
      Brilliant
      Confusion is a natural state of being

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        #23
        Originally posted by conned tractor View Post
        A thing called love
        If you find this post offensive, please insert "Chan" before and "tho" after, then it should be OK.

        Sometimes I almost feel just like a human being - Elvis Costello

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          #24
          Originally posted by zeitghost
          And that interminable wait for the next big bang...
          about 2 months then...
          "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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            #25
            Originally posted by conned tractor View Post

            Probably my favorite Christmas song :

            They said there'll be snow at Christmas,
            They said there'll be peace on earth,
            But instead it just kept on raining,
            A veil of tears for the Virgin birth.

            I remember one Christmas morning,
            The Winter's light and a distant choir,
            And the peal of a bell and that Christmas tree smell,
            And eyes full of tinsel and fire.

            They sold me a dream of Christmas,
            They sold me a silent night,
            They told me a fairy story,
            'Til I believed in the Israelite.

            And I believed in Father Christmas,
            And I looked to the sky with excited eyes,
            Then I woke with a yawn in the first light of dawn,
            And I saw him and through his disguise.

            I wish you a hopeful Christmas,
            I wish you a brave New Year,
            All anguish, pain and sadness,
            Leave your heart and let your road be clear.

            They said there'd be snow at Christmas,
            They said there'd be peace on earth,
            Hallelujah! Noel!, be it Heaven or Hell,
            The Christmas we get, we deserve.
            "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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              #26
              Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
              And while you might think that Allah and the God-the-Father-Christian God are unique, many Christians believe that Allah is in fact satan. A quick google will reinforce that view. ( I mean that that's what some Christians believe, not that Allah is satan, before I get jihadded to death ).
              Yes my old buddies at http://www.rr-bb.com believe that (or did if they haven't been raptured into heaven yet - I haven't checked in on them for a while, since they banned me). They're not the brightest though, bless 'em, and I don't think it's occurred to them that Arab Christians refer to God as Allah as well.

              As for me, I retain my faith in AndyW. I have no evidence he existed or that he will ever return but I feel spiritually uplifted to believe that there is, on some plane, a being worse than myself.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                Yes my old buddies at http://www.rr-bb.com believe that (or did if they haven't been raptured into heaven yet - I haven't checked in on them for a while, since they banned me). They're not the brightest though, bless 'em, and I don't think it's occurred to them that Arab Christians refer to God as Allah as well.

                As for me, I retain my faith in AndyW. I have no evidence he existed or that he will ever return but I feel spiritually uplifted to believe that there is, on some plane, a being worse than myself.
                Hope
                Confusion is a natural state of being

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DaveB View Post
                  Probably my favorite Christmas song :

                  They said there'll be snow at Christmas,
                  They said there'll be peace on earth,
                  But instead it just kept on raining,
                  A veil of tears for the Virgin birth.

                  I remember one Christmas morning,
                  The Winter's light and a distant choir,
                  And the peal of a bell and that Christmas tree smell,
                  And eyes full of tinsel and fire.

                  They sold me a dream of Christmas,
                  They sold me a silent night,
                  They told me a fairy story,
                  'Til I believed in the Israelite.

                  And I believed in Father Christmas,
                  And I looked to the sky with excited eyes,
                  Then I woke with a yawn in the first light of dawn,
                  And I saw him and through his disguise.

                  I wish you a hopeful Christmas,
                  I wish you a brave New Year,
                  All anguish, pain and sadness,
                  Leave your heart and let your road be clear.

                  They said there'd be snow at Christmas,
                  They said there'd be peace on earth,
                  Hallelujah! Noel!, be it Heaven or Hell,
                  The Christmas we get, we deserve.
                  Nice one, Sergei

                  And on the day when some bint at this client's has just sent an email asking for ideas for the Christmas night out
                  If you find this post offensive, please insert "Chan" before and "tho" after, then it should be OK.

                  Sometimes I almost feel just like a human being - Elvis Costello

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                    Not strictly accurate.
                    Belief is the acceptance that something is true
                    Faith is the unquestioning acceptance that something is true
                    According to EOD. But not the OED... well, depening on context.

                    "I believe in God" most times seems to mean "I believe God exists". Whereas, "I believe in EO" could mean "I have trust in EO's abilities".

                    Similarly "I have faith" could mean that
                    . I subscribe to a particular belief system
                    . I believe without evidence
                    . I trust the object of my faith

                    To take something "on faith", could mean to unquestioningly accepting that it is true, but it could also leave room for that opinion to change - as in, I'll go along with it for the time being - kind of "in good faith".

                    The most quoted biblical definition of faith is Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (King James)

                    Paraphrases of this are:

                    The fundamental fact of existence is that this trust in God, this faith, is the firm foundation under everything that makes life worth living. It's our handle on what we can't see. (Message)

                    Faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen; it gives us assurance about things we cannot see. (New Living Translation)

                    Of course, the original Greek makes it a lot clearer:

                    1εστιν δε πιστις ελπιζομενων υποστασις πραγματων ελεγχος ου βλεπομενων

                    hth
                    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Diver View Post
                      Hope
                      Oh yes, I remember hope.

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