Now the tories are attacking straight men

[snaw]

Total nonsense! Kids need to know where babies come from - not about sex.

Around 6 they need to know that a man has a seed and it gets into a woman's tummy. About 7 they need basic male/female body diagrams - and phrases such as "special cuddle". About 8 they should learn about sex from a baby making point of view. At 9 they should learn sex can be recreation and at that point they need to know about homosexuals, gimp masks etcetc.

Think I agree with that (Well not sure about the special cuddles, that sounds perverse) generally. To be honest none of us here, I think, are experts in child education, so it's kind of moot getting into the detail.

My point is that in principle I'm ok with anything that ensures being homosexual is treated impartially and that children can make their choices in life as to their sexuality without fear, and without being abused or beaten up for it later.

[cailin maith]

My cousin is gay, him and his boyfriend would make great parents.

[DodgyAgent]

Total nonsense! Kids need to know where babies come from - not about sex.

Around 6 they need to know that a man has a seed and it gets into a woman's tummy. About 7 they need basic male/female body diagrams - and phrases such as "special cuddle". About 8 they should learn about sex from a baby making point of view. At 9 they should learn sex can be recreation and at that point they need to know about homosexuals, gimp masks etcetc.

none of my children fell anywhere near your timetables.

Children more importantly need to know where they come from, which is why social services do not allow adoptions from other relationships. If a child grows up in a asame sex relationship then that child will have greater difficulty in overcoming the confusion that will accompany such an environment. This is why same sex adoption and marriage is not and nor should be on an equal level to traditional marriage/partnering.

my point (and I think it is snaws point also) is that despite all his, where same sex adoptive parents are a better alternative to the care system (which is no way for a child to be brought up) then fine.

[BrilloPad]

Think I agree with that (Well not sure about the special cuddles, that sounds perverse) generally. To be honest none of us here, I think, are experts in child education, so it's kind of moot getting into the detail.

My point is that in principle I'm ok with anything that ensures being homosexual is treated impartially and that children can make their choices in life as to their sexuality without fear, and without being abused or beaten up for it later.

Excellent! we are all agreed then! Diver's earlier point was that children are being told about sex as recreation at too young an age.

As an aside, we have a book to give to the kids soon. It talks about "special cuddles". When we got the book we read it - that evening I picked up the twins and my gf told my daughter to "give Daddy a special cuddle"

Cue large amounts of coughing - and the gf got a roasting when the kids went in bed. Naturally she got a good spanking.....

[DodgyAgent]

Total nonsense! Kids need to know where babies come from - not about sex.

Around 6 they need to know that a man has a seed and it gets into a woman's tummy. About 7 they need basic male/female body diagrams - and phrases such as "special cuddle". About 8 they should learn about sex from a baby making point of view. At 9 they should learn sex can be recreation and at that point they need to know about homosexuals, gimp masks etcetc.

Alternatively kids of the ages you mention should be simply left to enjoy being kids, not given an ordered managed course in growing up. Your program of sex education at these ages worries me.

[BrilloPad]

none of my children fell anywhere near your timetables.

Children more importantly need to know where they come from, which is why social services do not allow adoptions from other relationships. If a child grows up in a asame sex relationship then that child will have greater difficulty in overcoming the confusion that will accompany such an environment. This is why same sex adoption and marriage is not and nor should be on an equal level to traditional marriage/partnering.

my point (and I think it is snaws point also) is that despite all his, where same sex adoptive parents are a better alternative to the care system (which is no way for a child to be brought up) then fine.

Can I ask if you think children should be told earlier or later than my timetables?

IMO earlier they will not understand. Later and they will get stuff from their friends - possibly getting wrong information.

A friends 9 year old son asked him about anal sex - he heard from his friends. He was horrified - I pointed out it was perhaps a good opening for a chat...

As for the same sex adoption thing - I have nothing against it. My twins live 4 days with me and 3 days with Mum. That is unusual - but kids come to accept these things. I expect I may be shot down in flames on this point...

[BrilloPad]

Alternatively kids of the ages you mention should be simply left to enjoy being kids, not given an ordered managed course in growing up. Your program of sex education at these ages worries me.

I understand your point. But kids are curious as to where they come from. And they will get it from their friends. And posssibly they will get wrong information.

In an ideal world kids would grow up being kids. I do wish life was like that.

[BrilloPad]

My cousin is gay, him and his boyfriend would make great parents.

You have a relative who is gay! ban the unclean one!!!!

[original PM]

This link about sums up my views on it all!

[BrilloPad]

This link about sums up my views on it all!

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thanks for that OPM!!

Why is that security guard walking towards me with a black bag?